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Update Dominic - Part 9
Will it ever settle?
rfgdxm1




msg:108363
 6:12 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

....Continued from here [webmasterworld.com]
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I just checked all 9 datacenters. Only -sj and -fi have the new index.

 

Markus




msg:108393
 11:05 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Why do so many people not understand the DNS situation with google though?

I've been on that mission a long time ago. And I can tell you it's quite exhausting...

BTW, I can see www-fi results on www from Germany. Has the dance started? ;-)

john5




msg:108394
 11:44 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

See the same as Markus does. -fi results are on www.google.com. My location is Germany too.

adsoft13




msg:108395
 12:10 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Can somebody stickemail me the url, where I can check search on all datacenters, please?

ncsuk




msg:108396
 12:16 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think the actual dance may well have started. If I do a search for the amount of page of my site that are indexed I get different results on all 9 server except on 2 of them that are the same. Those 2 being www and another one. There is definatly something happening.

MOOSBerlin




msg:108397
 12:20 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

fi results: i can't see them in germany, wheaher in google.com or in google.de

canuck




msg:108398
 12:25 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Seeing the -fi results on Aol Search now up here in Canada...

ncsuk




msg:108399
 12:26 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just checked all my logs and still no wormsign.

There is a fair bit of freshbot activity but not much else.

amazed




msg:108400
 12:33 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

confirm - no sight of -sj or -fi ...they are different for my keywords ... on www.
aol has got -fi since last night. yahoo had -fi last night but has gone back to www today. Yahoo has been eliminating double listings since I watch.

JonnyWales




msg:108401
 12:45 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

update coming through on www in UK.

amazed




msg:108402
 12:46 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

you win... see -fi on www now too...

trillianjedi




msg:108403
 12:54 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

This is amazing - do we really have to keep explaining Google's round robin DNS every 5 posts?!

I'll leave this to someone else - have rather lost my patience. I did try.

TJ

amazed




msg:108404
 12:57 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

no trillianjedi, this is www.****

amazed




msg:108405
 12:58 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

sorry I mentioned the unmentionable tool

trillianjedi




msg:108406
 1:08 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ah, ok - so not google at all.

Trying to think of a 4 letter domain search engine now!

You don't mean www.*ol.com do you?

john5




msg:108407
 1:13 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have the same number of links (link:www.mydomain.com) and same SERPS of -fi and -sj servers now for about 2 hours on www. It must be the update. Location Southern Germany.

amazed




msg:108408
 1:13 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

christ, the name is much longer and it has a dash and probably 90% of people here know it anyway

amazed




msg:108409
 1:17 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

thanks Anon27 thats what I meant

trillianjedi




msg:108410
 1:21 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have the same number of links (link:www.mydomain.com) and same SERPS of -fi and -sj servers now for about 2 hours on www. It must be the update.

Are you checking by IP address because I still see the same number of Yahoo! backlinks for www as they were last week (661k).

TJ

adsoft13




msg:108411
 1:23 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

no update to me as well. I'm in Russia.
still 661 on all datacenters, except sj and fi .

trillianjedi




msg:108412
 1:24 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think we're due another posting regarding google's round robin DNS but I just can't be bothered anymore!

TJ

wackmaster




msg:108413
 1:28 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

TJ,

The dns rotation learning disability thing amazes me too. Aaaaaaaaaannnyway...

We noticed this morning that the cached pages in -sj (which, until yesterday, weren't there), are now in place. Oddly, for some sites the cached data finally visible in -sj are inconsistent with the summary data displayed in the SERP's (the cached data appears fresh, while in some cases the summary blurbs in the SERP's are still from the Feb crawl).

Also, I know others have said they are seeing -sj from time to time at G partner sites, but we have yet to see that, despite hundreds of refreshes plus Web access from multiple remote terminals. We have only seen -fi appearing, along with the other 7 data centers not including -sj. Maybe it's just an odd coincidence.

However, another thought here is that they weren't letting the -sj data center filter out to the Web as they were the other 8, because the caches weren't there yet. Perhaps now that they're in, the -sj data will become more widely visible?

Just a thought. Won't make sense if I'm wrong about the -sj not appearing much...

MHes




msg:108414
 1:29 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

trillianjedi

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink....

or my more favoured version....

You can lead a hoare to culture, but you can't make her think.

trillianjedi




msg:108415
 1:29 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm in Russia

By the way, it actually makes no difference where you are.

The update is happening when all the datacentres are "updating" - oddly enough!

Currently, that's not the case - as checking the IP address ranges for google will show those who actually understand how googles DNS system works. If you don't understand it, please stop posting to say "the update has started".

Thanks,

TJ

trillianjedi




msg:108416
 1:31 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink....

Oh, please make them drink though, somebody! Please!

TJ

trillianjedi




msg:108417
 1:34 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wackmaster,

I've noticed the same. It's odd. GG seemed convinced that -sj would form the basis of the new index too. I'm getting the feeling he may be wrong on that one.

Or for some mad reason they are giving Yahoo! and aol something else. But that wouldn't really make sense either, unless they both specifically asked for that.

TJ

john5




msg:108418
 1:42 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am checking by domain www.google.com. And for link:www.yahoo.com I am getting 617.000 - stable for about 2-3 hours.

amazed




msg:108419
 1:42 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Trillianjedi,

I think I do understand about the DNS. What makes you think google is using it the way it used to?

cheers

esaslo




msg:108420
 1:47 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have 7 of the nine data centers matching re: indexing 12 new sites I added... looks like it is pretty close to a merge.

mrbrad




msg:108421
 1:50 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

The dns rotation learning disability thing amazes me too.

Im sure Google is using alot more advanced techniques than simple DNS round robin rotation.

Its more likely a full blown content switching system that dynamically switches your query to the datacenter experiencing the least load at the instant you connect and/or execute your query, combined with other geographical and reachability paramaters.

[edited by: mrbrad at 1:53 pm (utc) on May 14, 2003]

amazed




msg:108422
 1:52 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

www.-ex for my keywords now has switched to something not seen before, www, -sj, or -fi

thereuare




msg:108423
 1:54 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

New user here, lurker for a couple weeks!

I can confirm that Yahoo is being given something other than -sj or -fi.

My site is only about 3 months old, and i've been deep crawled already. I was baffled when my site first appeared 2 weeks after submission but then disappeared in a few days... but i'm learning now!

Anyway, a competitor of mine and I started around the same time, and i know that my site is MUCH more extensive then theirs (200+ pages vs 10 pages), although neither of us have many links. Their site does NOT appear at all in www, -sj, -fi, or any of the other datacenters for the keywords i'm checking, and puts us in the first or second page at -sj and -fi. (EDIT: they are now in www and datacenters other than -sj and -fi). When i try the same searches on Yahoo, our site is no where to be found, and their site is on the first page!

So there is definately a difference between what google is showing at -sj and -fi and what they're sending to Yahoo (and AOL?)

I'm hoping that their listing is just a result of freshbot and will soon disappear, or at the very least they all revert to -sj or -fi... but i'm perplexed as to how the results can be so different at Yahoo and the Google datacenters.

[edited by: thereuare at 2:06 pm (utc) on May 14, 2003]

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