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Update Dominic - Part 7
hetzeld




msg:157054
 9:47 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

> When is the update expected to end?

We're not even sure it is started yet! :)

Dan

 

ncsuk




msg:157055
 10:19 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)


You can all stop speculating now and wait and see what happens because by the look of it the dance has started. All the datacentres are showing different results so lets see what happens.

Dayo_UK




msg:157056
 10:28 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Cant See it -

No more different from the normal differences over the last seven odd days

McMohan




msg:157057
 10:37 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Same here... no differences.. same trend continues :(

cheater copperpot




msg:157058
 10:37 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>No more different from the normal differences over the last seven odd days

Same here.. Looks like the same stuff to me

[edited by: cheater_copperpot at 11:03 am (utc) on May 14, 2003]

rfgdxm1




msg:157059
 10:43 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Same old rotten SERPs. This premature egooglation is getting out of hand around here. Move along folks. Ignore this thread. Nothing of interest here.

percentages




msg:157060
 10:44 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

ncsuk,

You are dreaming, all data centers except sj and fi when checked by IP address show the www results!

No real update as of this time!

Ankheg




msg:157061
 10:56 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

This was probably noted earlier, but who has time to read through every message in every thread?

With the wierdness of the unupdate, I've been checking results on the -sj, -fi, -ex, whatever servers, and noticed something interesting:

Right now, for me, only the -ex server is "recognizing" widget.com as being the same as www.widget.com. Every other server has "issues" with the www/non-www. It's also the only server that's providing the "if you know this domain exists, click here to go to it now" link for non-indexed domain names, above the "click here for sites that contain the term domain.com"...

I'm also noticing a lot more pages --of my sites-- indexed in -ex than -sj/-fi/www, though it's still not everything that was deepcrawled in April.

Wierd.

ncsuk




msg:157062
 11:41 am on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

They all changed here but have changed back again. Wierd wierd wierd wierd etc etc.

It was when I had just woken up but im a morning person so trust me they did :)

McMohan




msg:157063
 2:13 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have no Idea, if this has got anything to do with any semblance of dancing, but lemme post what happened just a while back, coz its unusual.

I was searching for a particular Phrase X in www, and the 1st page showed "Results 1 - 10 of about 99,100". When I proceeded to the 2nd page it became "Results 11 - 20 of about 102,000". I was for moment thinking dancing has begun (hold back pals ;)). When I checked for Yahoo backlinks to confirm, it was still the old trash :( What can I infer from this? Is this pretty usual or..?

MartijnH




msg:157064
 2:19 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can confirm that some old indexes are used, I recently did changes to topic titles (we used [$title] :( ) and all results are currently showing [$title] instead of $title. I changed this about 3 weeks ago...

ncsuk




msg:157065
 2:27 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

A lurker has come out of his shell.

Welcome to the forums Martin

asomani




msg:157066
 3:05 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Any expected date for the update?

adsoft13




msg:157067
 3:08 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Anybody knows, why last 2 times google update tool shows:
"
Last Check 39 secs ago.
6:05 pm on May 14, 2003 (utc +3)
Yahoo Links www. 617,000
www2. 617,000
www3. 617,000
www-sj. 617,000

Status Update!? ...hmmm, 1,2,3-sj do not match!
Could indicate a possible update, but do not panic.
"

Looks like sometimes for this tool the update is finished, but I don't see new results on www?

The tool url is: [webmasterworld.com...]

jady




msg:157068
 3:09 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

lol!

May 15, 2003 at 5:06pm PST

Psst - other dance machine shows nothing:

<snip>

[edited by: Woz at 4:48 pm (utc) on May 14, 2003]
[edit reason] no Google Tools please; see Charter. [/edit]

tombot




msg:157069
 3:12 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just to add my experience for what it's worth...

I have new site since mid to late march. It has gotten a little freshbot traffic, but was not deep crawled before the previous update. Not indexed, no backlinks shown and greybar.

So after the last update, it was crawled by deepbot, many hundreds of pages.

None of these pages show up in any of the datacenters right now and no backlinks either.

khuntley




msg:157070
 3:22 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

tombot...
I am in the same boat with a few sites and some existing sites with major changes that would have been picked up by last deep in April. And no back link changes. And I did see 617,000 for all servers a few minutes ago.

Dominic: the update that wasn't (or hasn't finished)

Kevin

needinfo




msg:157071
 3:35 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've just seen fi results on www here in the uk for about the last 3 minutes solid. Now back to normal.

netnerd




msg:157072
 4:19 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

They are still at fi here for my search terms!

Im in the uk too.

I hope they change back...

netnerd




msg:157073
 4:24 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

The results are crappy for this - they show my site map and about us page higher than my index page!

Im hopeing this is just some sort of everflux

netnerd




msg:157074
 4:25 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Now www has changed back to sj!

amazed




msg:157075
 4:35 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

fata morgana?

Critter




msg:157076
 4:28 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I believe it was May 2nd (or possibly the 1st) when it was noticed that www-sj had different results--and at present www still gives last month's SERPs.

I realize that we're seeing something different with Google's update this time around; but honestly folks, don't you long for the "5 days and we're done" times?

I believe the proper saying would be: "Apprehension is much better than panic."

:)

Peter

entropy




msg:157077
 4:43 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Don't forget people that Google, being a high traffic website, uses round robin DNS. Each time you perform a DNS request for www.google.com you could be forwarded to any of the datacenters. This should explain why some of you are seeing on and off results.

Chris_D




msg:157078
 4:50 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

The IP address tells you the answer. Forget the 'nominal and published' IP address for datacentres. Do a traceroute or a ping.

Google has a (typical of Google) well implemented DNS system.

Do your own research - here on other posts - or using an IP traceroute/ ping tool - www2 and www3 have been redirected for days.

Thats the clue we are chasing.......

lazyz




msg:157079
 4:57 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

www2, www3, www-sj
all resolvle to the same ip
all have bad/old data (out dated/deleted domains)
all have been bouncing around for a while now...

time to move on and wait until www moves

bluemi




msg:157080
 5:56 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have so far been quite relaxed about this update as my opinion about Google was good enough to believe they would never let the crap from -sj go online. Seems I was wrong, I can see it moving over to www now. This is NOT the complaint of a disgruntled webmaster as my sites are pretty much doing the same, but for one of my keywords I can now see a URL on position 2 which at some time was used by the No. 1 site but is dead since about 6 months! There's more stuff like this, so I can't help thinking that there is something going seriously wrong. Google goes Altavista?

trillianjedi




msg:157081
 5:59 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Don't forget people that Google, being a high traffic website, uses round robin DNS. Each time you perform a DNS request for www.google.com you could be forwarded to any of the datacenters. This should explain why some of you are seeing on and off results.

Shall we just keep re-quoting that every 5 messages or so?

Seems we need to!

TJ

bluemi




msg:157082
 6:12 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

What's the point, TJ? There has been a long period where, at least for me, nothing from -sj or the other datacenters ever showed up on www. Now it starts doing it, so there must be something going on.

trillianjedi




msg:157083
 6:16 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

There is nothing going on. WWW has not changed index. WWW operates a round robin DNS system. It's distributed computing.

You are getting sent to a different datacenter, sometimes that will be -SJ, sometimes -ex etc etc

TJ

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