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Update Dominic - Part 6

 9:45 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can't believe the thread for the dance that never was still grows!

Let's recap:
Normal dance:
Five days into it and it is almost over with index moving across the other 7 main data centers.

So far, 7 days into this PRE-DANCE:
The SJ data has not started to migrate to the other 7 main data centers. FI not included.

I have not seen sj results show up on www in over 3 days now.

www2 and www3 all are pointed to the IP of sj.
I've seen it mentioned that we have been privy to a part of the dance we normally don't see and I would be inclined to agree with that.

I don't think we will see the real dance start for a couple days at least. It's not a real dance anyway until all the data is applied, so I think we are all going to see a big shift from what the SJ server is showing and what will actually be in the index.

I find it funny that GoogleGuy has disappeared. I think they rolled out the new algo to get our opinions. Most searchers don't bother to fill out a satisfaction report. They just go somewhere else. In that respect, Google has a great asset in this community because they sure got a lot of feedback about what was on the SJ server. I think when the dance really starts in earnest, we'll see GoogleGuy show up again.

Anyway, back to work adding content for the next deep crawl

[edited by: mrguy at 10:39 pm (utc) on May 8, 2003]



 8:05 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Has anyone else seen activity on www? I have gained pretty well today in the www serps. I can't think of why this would happen unless they are beginning to move some of what they've been doing on -sj to www. However, it's not the -sj results at all that I am seeing on www. I'm just seeing improvements overall for all of my keywords...as much as 5 - 8 positions up today for kw's.


 8:39 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

BigDave, the food is pretty good. Come to think of it, I'm going to go get some right now.. :)


 8:53 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

total results on a keywork i am checking:
-sj 4,470,000
-fi 3,370,000
www. 3,950,000

it seems the most bloated index is SJ. however based on alot of what i've been reading around here, you would expect the next/new index to de-bloating to a degree, with new filters here, new things there, etc.... so -sj is suspect in that case...

if all the other googles hiding in their cubicles (databases) are waiting -fi to catch up with them, than i guess we still have a ways to go before final propagation of uptdate to www.

no, yes? it's a slow day at the office.....


 8:57 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's still going on and interesting to look in on a little bit here and there to see changes, but I'm paying most attention to www.

WebMistress, I'm seeing the same thing. Still Fresh updates with some very interesting results for pages that just went up, like overnight.

I'm kind of wondering if updates will eventually sneak onto www without being noticeable, there are such constant changes.


 8:59 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think there's still a ways to go as I see someone ahead of me with 2 urls next to each other:


Which is going to really annoy many people if that is what happens in the final index....


 9:02 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

haha Marcia,

sticking with www. as a general rule... probably really good advice. or else face complete infatuation, than obsession, and than turn into something not human....


 9:40 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

GoogleGuy and BigDave how can you discuss the food in googleplex while we others agonise what is going on on sj and fi?
GG can't you give us a hint when there could be something going on at sj, fi or even www2?
Well, I think I know the answer ;-)
Calm down it will take a while.


 9:53 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

hey googleguy, just like your little bot friend you always visit when i'm not looking.


 9:56 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)


Why did Google allow us to start seeing all of this STUFF many days ago? Well, we all know the answer to THAT.

And what do we get for all of this profound input? Pain.

Pain, pain, and more pain.

C'mon GG. Throw us a crumb...

Hey, you know what I think? I think Google's servers are BROKE - especially -sj and -fi - and they can't find a way to stop us from seeing all of this. That would explain the strange things we're seeing, now wouldn't it!


 10:01 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm sure reaction is being noted. Wouldn't this community make a good test group? We'd spot things pretty quickly.


 10:04 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi, need help with site pages disappearing! Are the results in www2 and www3 old results. Many of my pages from March and April are gone.



 10:04 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I haven't seen any change on our keywords on -sj since this all started. For the last 24 hours www2 has been showing exactly the same as -sj for me (not good), does anyone else get this?

Just checked -fi and the missing site has come back since yesterday at #4 rather than it's #1 on www. Hopeful sign...


 10:13 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Come on now, you are all grown up and should be able to wait for good things to happen.

GoogleGuy tell us some more about the food, theBear is partial to food.



 10:23 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just speaking of food:

Which stage of preparing the final dinner we're in?

Very generalised summary (too tired to go into details again and again):

-fi -sj www2:
Less result pages
Less double results
Some new pages in
incoming links not yet updated

Where can we send the invoice for observing / beta testing / hanging around? ;)

Somewhat bemused, but also fascinated to watch (pre-)Dominic, or whatever it is.


 10:31 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe GG should buy us all lunch at the Googleplex café!


 10:45 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

With this half-baked update, you've got to wonder what the cook has been smoking.


 10:47 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

there are a couple posts here recently comparing results, for -sj, and ww2..... one saying the results were different on each.

that seems weird considering both designations ping to the same IP, and have been. it should be exactly the same data.

if you're going to watch. money seems to be on the -fi action, and www...... at the moment. -sj seems to have fallen out of favor lately.. too bad, there were some good results on there for us that are no longer on -fi for us.... so the google cookie is crumbling at the moment.


 10:53 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would guess that theBear likes fish, but today we had beef. :) djgreg, you answered your own question pretty well. :)


 10:53 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

hey googleguy,

where's that new optimizer utility on google.com?

You know, the one where you can put your URL in and it returns a brand spanking new, fully optimized, fully gauranteed to rank in the heavens URL in return?

(oh, and it's free!)



 11:00 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

has this been answered somewhere:

we have white text internal navigation links on our home page, in a table with a blue background, but on a white page....

Is Google checking table background colors, not just page backgrounds, to determine "invisible text" technical fouls and basis for ejection?

we would think the answer has to be yes... but just checking..


 11:36 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

well I'm going to chip in my little bit at this point. For what it's worth.

I wasn't to sure about the updates that have been going on as I don't have as much knowledge as most of the posters here.

I judge my SEO sucess by how much traffic (which also means sales) comes through. Normally I expect the week days to be slow, but start to pickup on Friday morning and carry on until Sunday evening. This is on multiple sites, same IP, different markets.

Well today my traffic is down, big time. But the same punters are out there looking for the same stuff, so now they're finding it somewhere else. I don't think I've broken any rules, but for the same searches I'm seeing traffic from yahoo - but not from google.

This is not a whine, I'm just very confused.




 11:45 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Glad to hear that they feed you well GoogleGuy. I hope you get to escape at least once every couple of weeks to make it over to Nicolino's for lunch.

I'm pretty sure that theBear would go for some beef too. I've seen bears eat buffalo and elk.

The BigDave went for fish today because it just seemed like too good of a day to not spend a couple of hours out on the water.

Even if your food there at the Plex is that good, it would just be too tough to get back into the working world grind.


 11:47 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

yahoo backlinks on www2,www3 just went up to 617,000


 11:54 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Any reason why -fi will not upheave on my browser, anyone else have this problem, -sj works fast -fi is not coming up?


 11:54 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

... and it was so sedative to speak only about cooking ;)


 11:56 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes. -fi will not perform correctly for me either. -sj just changed and I can't get past page one on -fi.

Gee this update is entertaining...


 11:59 pm on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Friday is Carnitas day.


 12:00 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

Now -fi seems to be functioning again. Don't like what it shows, but it is working again.


 12:01 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

-sj and -fi backlinks just changed. 617,000 for yahoo. My site changed also.


 12:01 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

good. hope -fi is gone. may it rest in piece. come on -sj. rooting for you all the way.

self serving statement is now over..


 12:04 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

sj result simple sucks cause it opened door to spammers and locked out honest hard works... May God help us that sj result does not fully roll over to www!

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