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Current Hapiness Ranking With Google Update
Whats your vote
webdev

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 12:25 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've been quiet over the last couple of days after ranting when this all started because I have been assuming things would get better for me in the SJ and FI results etc.... but as of yet still nothing to get excited about. I just wondered what other peoples perceptions are at this point in time on the overall update moving forward.

1) Very Happy -Doing great up there for all my important terms.
2) Happy - Slightly higher rankings than last month.
3) Average - Haven't really gained or lost.
4) Poor - Lost quite a few important keywords.
5) Diabolical - The whole update is awful please revert back to current SERPS.

GG mentioned things would start to improve as they factored things in.....mine haven't so I'm going for number 5....hoping that they will at some point....

My own experience: I was ranked great for very important keyphrases the last 6 months along with another 9 sites who all jostled for position on the first page. I'm now page 7 and they are all still jostling for the first page although I have far more backlinks, pages indexed etc... etc....

 

dazz

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 12:33 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

2 - at the moment

FleaPit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:00 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebDev, sounds like you may have been sent to the 7th page penal colony. I have to agree some of my 'money making' keywords have been shafted by sj on my newest site, but my other two sites (more established) have both moved up the serps with some new no 1 positions. So all in all I will currently grant the sj serps a...

2

renee

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:01 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

1 - fantastic

wackmaster



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:04 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

3 - as far as our sites our concerned...perhaps slightly more gain than loss, but basically a wash.

However, while neither -sj or -fi seems to be hurting us the way it's doing to some, -fi still generating poorer quality results relative to www - at least in the categories we watch.

Two days ago, we thought -sj poorer too, but now not so sure.

With thousands, if not millions, of content categories out there, we're going to hear a lot of variability I would think...

DotBum

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:05 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

A bit of a mixed bag really - 1 for some, 2 for some and 3 for some.

I'll average at 2 but am preparing for the worst...

This is the first update since I started doing this that has really made me think - google could put me on the dole with one click, well possibly 2 or 3 clicks... :)

Mohamed_E

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Msg#: 12729 posted 1:11 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would say a 3.

www-sj seems to have lost a whopping 20% of my pages (was 30% a couple of days ago), but essentially none of the important ones.

But it is scary, had it lost a different set of pages things would be very different :(

PollyG

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:12 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Definitely a 1 for us - great improvements in all our Keywords

promis

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:19 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's 6 for me (suicidal)

Buckley

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:27 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

4 for me....maybe 5 but i'm hanging in there hoping for changes b 4 it migrates to www.google.com

Chief

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:29 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

SJ is better than FI for me at the moment but I don't think that is close to the final index (backlinks and all filters have not been put in place). Although in SJ I had one huge jump for one keyword and one huge drop for another (can't find it and hoping it will show back up).

So looking at the SJ index AS IS, I would say a 2.75 overall.

If my one site shows back up, then a 1.5!

(the only idiot using decimals) :)

Dayo_UK

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:29 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

4 for me too - desperately waiting for pages to be added back in!

shaadi

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:29 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

1 - fantastic me and my competitor both are gone LOL

wackmaster



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:34 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

BTW, call me crazy, but until we see the latest crawl's data baked into the -sj results, which I don't see yet, then the results could still be expected to change, perhaps radically, especially with respect to new sites, and recent changes at existing sites.

So while this is all helpful in terms of sorting out what Google is up to, it's not necessarily reflective of a soon-to-come www reality ... yet.

le_gber

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:36 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's 6 for me (suicidal)

LOL same for me - cause it was a fairly new site

Leo

Chief

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Msg#: 12729 posted 1:36 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

wackmaster -- I agree.

webdev

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:40 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yeah I agree too that this should all change.....I'm just trying to guage if other peoples are getting any better from a few days ago....because mines not....and it makes me feel better when others are in the same boat as me too.

BikeMan

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:41 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

3 - Not really changed but if the links that are missing were factored in I think would be ranking higher.

albert

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:41 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

For some sites of mine: 2
Others: 3
Two sites: 4

Gave up to figure out why.

Mike12345

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:44 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

im gonna have to side with promis and say 6.

swampscrapper

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:46 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

(1) woohoo, love ya Dominic.

wackmaster



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 1:59 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

<Yeah I agree too that this should all change.....I'm just trying to guage if other peoples are getting any better from a few days ago....because mines not....and it makes me feel better when others are in the same boat as me too. >

webdev - understandable...but it's sort of like worrying about a bad dream...it's not real...

If you can sort out what is happening with the algo (not easy, obviously) and apply it to your current site, now that is helpful!

-sj and -fi don't use even the current www index, let alone the most recent crawl.

So, let's say that in the last two months, your site has added relevant pages, plus new backlinks (including one from a PR8 site), and isn't doing anything shady. Blam! - when the new algo is applied to the latest index, you're going to be HAAAAAAPPY!

mr_tim

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:04 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

2 for one site
3 for another

webdev

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:04 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

wackmaster

Complete understand what you saying.....I'm just miffed as to why the other 9 sites that were on the first page with me are still there...Is it just that thir backlinks being counted at the mo are worth more than mine....but when all of mine are factored back in I should be OK.

I guess if we had all dropped of the first page it would be easier to swallow, however its only my site....which is clean, has over 600 pages indexed, higher PR than 6 out of the top 10...make sme think is there something wrong or just a big coincidence....I'm going with coincidence as other people are reporting similar issues.

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:06 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

At this point in time, I'd say 2 or 3. I'll have a better idea after PageRank is recalculated.

I don't really see much variation in my rankings from month to month, probably because I don't use any SEO techniques that are likely to be affected by tweaks of Google's algorithm. I just rely on basics like content, descriptive page titles, and linking to my most important pages from the home page or navigation bar.

If SEO were investing, I'd be the conservative trust-fund manager with a diversified portfolio--as opposed to the aggressive day trader who spends his free time at the race track. :-)

mayor

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:07 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Update? What update? I'll go for a (3).

edit_g

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Msg#: 12729 posted 2:10 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

6++ here. Buried.

But I'm praying that the results as I am seeing them now on the different data centers will change quite dramatically before anything goes live.

Buckley

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:11 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

webdev: I am in the same boat as you. I couldn't understand why all my competitors seem to still be there but me :(

It's nice to know others are in the same boat as that should mean that things will change as this is across the board not just isolated to my site.

Wackmaster.....i hope your right!

MeditationMan

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:16 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's too early to say how the dance will pan out, of course, but so far I'm a 2 for my main keyword -- up one place to 7th out of 3 million. But that keyword only brings about 20% of my Google traffic --- I guess you could say I'm diversified within the context of Google.

I'd like to see my site move higher for that main keyword, of course. Getting to #1 would bring me an extra 100 visitors per day. It's just a matter of time and perseverance.

wackmaster



 
Msg#: 12729 posted 2:23 pm on May 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

<...other 9 sites that were on the first page with me are still there.>

webdev, Buckley, we have one situation like that too, and another site where we're much better off than before. In both cases, I believe that we can see why ... after two days of guesswork and analysis.

If you see that sort of difference, it might suggest that you've done something really good in recent months...did you see improvements in your standing in last several updates, that would not therefore be included yet in -sj?

Also, just curious, do you see much difference between -sj and -fi?

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