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They're at it again with the -sj server
different serps and backlinks
waynet

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Msg#: 12467 posted 1:13 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Looks like they are testing the www-sj.google.com server again. I see 384k backlinks for yahoo and the serps are different.

 

twilight47

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Msg#: 12467 posted 1:27 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

What is the sj server on Google?

Bradley

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Msg#: 12467 posted 1:30 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

From another thread I read about this, its one of Google's datacenters located in San Jose.

Anon27

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Msg#: 12467 posted 1:37 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hope this helps:

www-sj.google .com

crobb305

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Msg#: 12467 posted 1:59 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wonder what they are doing. When we saw this earlier this week there seemed to be a cap at 1000 for backlinks. Now there isn't a cap. Yahoo listed as 382k backlinks.

mipapage

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:00 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

My backlinks are outta wack on the main www.google domain!

<seconds later> hmm, seems to be finished...

jrobbio

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:43 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yeah I'm seeing 384k. Normal results on www though.

indigojo

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:51 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

YEP me too link:www.yahoo.com
Results 1 - 10 of about 384,000. Search took 0.08 seconds

Anon27

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:01 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

LOL

My 118 links went to 2!

crobb305

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:02 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

My 584 went to 82. In fact there is a backlink reduction across the board. Yahoo's cut in half. This can't be a glimpse at the "real" update. Hope not :)

C

Bio4ce

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:25 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

This looks like an old database to me. Probably something they are toying with.

crobb305

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:27 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I thought it was an old database too until I noticed some recently acquired incoming links to my site, and relatively new cache.

Oaf357

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:00 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

The database is old but definitely a different algo.

indigojo

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:02 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well I have a 20 day old site in this index so it can't be that old

kaz

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:04 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have data in it from April 21

why2kit

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:05 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

no - the database conatins april 12 stuff - not that old - the other dataceners (for the stuf i looked at) contain march data

markusf



 
Msg#: 12467 posted 4:09 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

it contains one of my pages dated april 27th.. And this site isn't older then 2 weeks..

why2kit

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:11 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

looks like this could be bad news - maybe googleguy could kick in with some answers at this point?

finditnow

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:21 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

This is horrible - please tell me this isn'twhat the update will look like.

aek

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:39 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Do a search at www-sj.google.com for link:www.yahoo.com and yahoo backlinks show 384000 and completely different results from the other servers.

Jenstar

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:41 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I see the same 384,000 on sj

Jen

alpine

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:50 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

But when I look at the cache of our home page on SJ, it shows a time stamp of 4/21/2003. On www.google.com it is 4/28. Why would that be?

jeremy goodrich

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Msg#: 12467 posted 2:54 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

different datacenters = different index being used.

it's been that way for a while with google, they do a 'rolling update' that goes out from one datacenter to another, after it gets built.

With that many pages, and that many smart people working there - it only makes sense to figure they have found / or will have a solid way of workin gon 'rolling updates' in the future more, and less reliance on the monthly updates of the past.

At least, that is all my opinion from the bits & pieces here and all the google articles.

I believe Craig Silverstein said something like that at one point about the weekly / or what not updates.

And here, we talk about 'freshbot' all the time - it only makes sense that, on any given moment, you could go to 1 datacenter - and get different info than from another.

mrguy

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:42 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

What is everybodies freaking obsession with the sj server.

Who cares!

The dataservers jump back and forth during the month because of the freshbot.

It doesn't mean a thing!

The update will happen when it happens and we will all get to see the results then.

EliteWeb

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:45 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

mrguy, i see you've taken the blue pill once before ;) Yah if you dig up info on all googles servers you find find different datacenters, each with its own indexes. You gotta figure in order for people to get best results and for them to keep everything fresh and constantly worken they need more than one :D SJ is a good center ;)

crobb305

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:48 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I wonder why there is so much anger on this board.

mrguy,
I have never seen backlinks change by a factor of 2 or more on any single Datacenter Server unless there is algorithm testing or a new update coming out. I think most can vouch for that. All we are saying is that the changes are interesting. This board is for open discussion, not insults and sarcasm.

C

why2kit

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Msg#: 12467 posted 3:56 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

something weird is going on - if anyone has seen freshbot today please let us know. Also it doesn;t really matter which datacenter the change comes from as google does some very smart load balance stuff

Oaf357

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:00 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's an older database but is definitely using a different algo.

marcs

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:03 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

why2kit: freshbot is doing its usual rounds

crawler10.googlebot.com - - [01/May/2003:20:06:06 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 4431 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)"

Plenty more entries in logs.

why2kit

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Msg#: 12467 posted 4:21 am on May 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi marcs - freshie did just visit my server (in the last 15 mins) but just to an index page. are your visits to lower level pages?

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