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Giving all the secrets away
miles




msg:141094
 11:38 pm on Apr 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

Sitting at my desk reading. I find it interesting that if we keep talking about google and letting them know, well some of us, how do get into their index they will change it. So if you know how be vauge and ingeneral. Oppps thats what most posts are anyway. Well just a thought for you to think about.

 

Jakpot




msg:141124
 2:08 pm on May 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

"because I followed previous "secrets" on
webmasterworld."

I love Webmaster World but approach "secrets" discussed on the form the same way I approach my mother in law - Cautiously"

visibot




msg:141125
 2:30 pm on May 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

> We spent far too much time worying about hiding secrets from type 1, instead of searching out the type 3 customers.

I agree. I'll lay out the entire scoop to a client and the smart ones realize that there's a lot of work and a lot of knowledge involved and it makes more sense business-wise to contract for these services.

Then, there are the type 1 clients who proudly think they've manipulated you into revealing "secrets" in the form of free consulting, but once they realize that there's a big gap between theoretical understanding and producing meaningful results, the phone rings again.

(and there are a few who "discover" Overture and smugly think they've found the secret)

[edited by: visibot at 4:19 pm (utc) on May 4, 2003]

fathom




msg:141126
 3:13 pm on May 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

love that last comment visibot ;)

why didn't I think of that! :)

vnsampat




msg:141127
 3:54 pm on May 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

especially the big execs. out there just seem to love seeing their site #1 on Overture from day 1 ;)

anyone else have that problem?

visibot




msg:141128
 4:17 pm on May 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

> anyone else have that problem?

oh yeah..they pay for one-word generics and think they dominate the search engines :)

The rational ones sober up eventually, and either start doing things that make sense, or get suckered into something else like IGN keywords or whatever.

monsterisp




msg:141129
 4:57 pm on May 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

The professional will speak little and read a lot. The other will go to great lengths to share their personal insight regardless of the facts or consequences of their actions. They speak a lot and listen little, not for the purpose of generating additional revenue for their business, rather to hear the sound of their own voice being sooo clever.

Well put ;)

fathom




msg:141130
 9:04 am on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

The professional will speak little and read a lot. The other will go to great lengths to share their personal insight regardless of the facts or consequences of their actions. They speak a lot and listen little, not for the purpose of generating additional revenue for their business, rather to hear the sound of their own voice being sooo clever.

Although there is a little truth in that... this is one place that defies this statement -- catagorically. Lurkers read alot and add nothing... and the well-informed here are all active posters.

If they weren't -- I suspect the membership would have died-out and a quality link farm would have developed in its place.

ncsuk




msg:141131
 9:11 am on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Icarus Said...

"I had a molar extracted 2 days ago. Is there some connection between WebmasterWorld and dental issues?"

On the same issue mate I had 9 fillings the other day lol.

mil2k




msg:141132
 9:33 am on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Some of these Secrets are not so easy to implement. It requires lots of hard work and sometimes a whole redesign (which is not feasible for some Big Brand websites). A case in example would be the Canonicals which is a very interesting concept. However implementing it properly requires some doing.

Lurkers read alot and add nothing... and the well-informed here are all active posters.

Would like to add one more point and that is the No. of posts is not a very comprehensive way of judging experience. We have many who contribute only to update threads.

j_h_maccann




msg:141133
 9:56 am on May 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you'll
have to jam it down their throats."
-- Howard Aiken

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