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www-sj.google.com
different backlinks
waynet




msg:71810
 7:03 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't know if this really means anything, but right now I see only 1000 backlinks for yahoo on www-sj.google.com.
Maybe they are just playing around with that database?

 

rfgdxm1




msg:71811
 7:15 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

UPDATE!

Just kidding, I think. ;) However, on www-sj my site currently is #1 for a certain single word SERP, and #4 on all other servers. It is more than the backlinks that have changed.

speda1




msg:71812
 7:16 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes I see it too, very strange. Can't be the update, the deep crawl is'nt even over yet.

rfgdxm1




msg:71813
 7:23 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Most definitely this isn't a Google dance update. However, something VERY funky is going on with that datacenter.

JonB




msg:71814
 7:23 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

oh my god! I jsut checked site name and ishow up on #4 www-sj.google.com! ichecked normal google and i am NOWHERE to find there - since mysite was pr 0! I emailed 3 weeks ago google and they told "we will check about penalty"!Could it be that after almost 2years iwill get my pr back? or at least penalty removed? oh my...

there are for sure different resutls on www-sj.google.com and www.google.com!

is there are way to check PR on toolbar for www-sj.google.com? what is its ip?

waynet




msg:71815
 7:27 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I noticed differents SERPs too, and my site does a lot better for its main keyword on there, not that anybody really uses the -sj database directly.

AthlonInside




msg:71816
 7:27 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

This thread will be fast!

STRANGE STRANGE STRANGE ... index different, ranking different!

1st guess is that they have filter out links from site-interlinking.

But it is strange to see some penalize site appearing in the top SERPs.

JonB




msg:71817
 7:32 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

i hope that this is test database for new google.com database..that would be so cool :)

adsoft13




msg:71818
 7:32 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

strange ...
VERY strange ...

1) It shows new cash results ... we made these canges just 10 days ago - and it shows them ;)

2) It doesn't show a lot of my sites at all ...

So probably they just play around with not all sites (yahoo backlinks partially shows, that there are just a few web sites).

AthlonInside




msg:71819
 7:34 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Try to figure out what is the different and post it here.

I have notice ranking swing. Site which use to rank high droped, site which use to rank low raised! And some spammy site appearing. PR not so important anymore.

But overall the SERPs is good for me. ;)

[edited by: AthlonInside at 7:36 pm (utc) on April 26, 2003]

rfgdxm1




msg:71820
 7:35 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>oh my god! I jsut checked site name and ishow up on #4 www-sj.google.com! ichecked normal google and i am NOWHERE to find there - since mysite was pr 0! I emailed 3 weeks ago google and they told "we will check about penalty"!Could it be that after almost 2years iwill get my pr back? or at least penalty removed? oh my...

Hmm...is the governor of Google starting to hand out more pardons for those on Google Death Penalty row? Obviously, this lowers the deterrance value to thinking about cheating.

DVDBurning




msg:71821
 7:37 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I seriously doubt that this version will be next month's index... at least I hope not!

There are long lost sites showing up with PR0 still showing. There are other higher PR sites dropping down. The index is showing less backlinks. This is really strange!

AthlonInside




msg:71822
 7:38 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think I know what happens with the change!

The also drop the weight of inbound links and anchor text heavily!

mrguy




msg:71823
 7:38 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

People!

Calm down!

This is obviously some test datacenter that has not factored in all the variable from the algo.

The domain itself is grey with 0 back links. That should tell you something.

Yes it shows new caches, but who knows how old the algo is that is being applied when you do a search. I'm seeing postions for my sites from 6 months ago.

AthlonInside




msg:71824
 7:40 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Help I am panic! Google please play the old way. This earthquake is more serious than this one [webmasterworld.com...]

[edited by: AthlonInside at 7:43 pm (utc) on April 26, 2003]

lazyz




msg:71825
 7:41 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I hope this isn't the new update... I'll be screwed!

crobb305




msg:71826
 7:44 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Backlinks for Google only 1000. Same for Yahoo. Clearly not update.

JonB




msg:71827
 7:45 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

rfgdxm1: i crosslinked few of my domains 2 YEARS ago! i repaired everything like i could when i relaized what is all about.since then ididnt change anything on this site.My site was never "spam inits pure form".I see a lot of sites that crosslink and have HIGH pr all this time while mysite was pr 0.i think 2 years is like eternity in WEB time. idont know if they removed the penalty or not..but i think iwould deserve a second chance now... I am sure they will not remove spammer who got penalty last month.so if theyremoved penaltyit was "HAND" made bot automatic.:)

i hope for the best..

mrguy




msg:71828
 7:45 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Somebody!

Kill this thread!

This is not the new update!

Just like when somebody posted the link to the viewer and said it was the new update, turned out not even close.

We are weeks away from the update. It is way to early to even be talking about it. Those are the words of GoogleGuy himself.

Calm down, take a chill pill, get away from the computer, kick the dog, do the nasty with your wife, what ever, just quit thinking the is the end of Googledom!1

SEOPTI




msg:71829
 7:47 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

My keywords have improved. Seems like they have removed loads of spam.

AthlonInside




msg:71830
 7:54 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Discovery: The MAXIMUM backlinks i can get is 1000 no matter what domains I try!

PunkJazz




msg:71831
 7:55 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

What, if anything, is [www-sj.google.com...] supposed to be for? From all this uproar I assume you would normally expect it to reflect similar results, backlinks etc as the "real" google(s)?

coconutz




msg:71832
 8:06 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>The domain itself is grey with 0 back links.

None of the data centers have displayed PR or backlinks as far as I know.

The backlinks being displayed are a mix of new and old from what I see. Backlinks from DMOZ categories that were reorganized and moved/renamed in January are still displayed in the backlinks for some of the sites.

The total number of results for backlinks are limited to 1000 for any domain.
I see AthlonInside noticed too

Interesting find waynet.

edit spelling

[edited by: coconutz at 9:50 pm (utc) on April 26, 2003]

lazyz




msg:71833
 8:08 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm with punkjazz -

What is www-js.google.com for? Is it a test bed?

pixel_juice




msg:71834
 8:09 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

The total number of results for backlinks are limited to 1000 for any domain

Wow, devaluing link pop - wonder what Google will conclude if this is what they're up to. Definitely newer caches of pages than the main index too.

beachlover




msg:71835
 8:16 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Errrrr - I just checked the PR for one of my sites and www-sj showes a PR of 6 (currently it has a PR of 5)?! That is an expected increase but why is it already in the sj-database.

This is really strange...

canuck




msg:71836
 8:19 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would imagine backlinks being limited to 1000 has something to do with the fact that Google only shows the top 1000 results for any query.

So, they must be playing with the code on this data center and this is one of the by-products.

Ok, I have no clue! ;)

AthlonInside




msg:71837
 8:19 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

www-sj is not a test bed. (it might be now)

It is one of google datacenter, sj stands for San Jose.

Google have many datacenters and every search done on google.com is actually done by one of the data centers. You don't have control on which data centers to choose if you search from google.com. But luckily each data center is given a different domain name, such as www-sj and www-ex so you may go directly to them to search.

I think if they set sj to test bed now, then google.com will not direct the searches to this datacenter at the moment. just guess.

coconutz




msg:71838
 8:20 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>what is -sj for?

One of Google's data centers. It was thought that -sj and -zu were offline.

216.239.33.100 www-ex.google.com
216.239.35.100 www-sj.google.com
216.239.37.100 www-va.google.com
216.239.39.100 www-dc.google.com
216.239.51.100 www-ab.google.com
216.239.53.100 www-in.google.com
216.239.55.100 www-zu.google.com
216.239.57.100 www-cw.google.com

For each data center www-xx.google.com, there is a www-xx2.google.com.

crobb305




msg:71839
 8:20 pm on Apr 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

Just a thought...
On www-sj, backlinks are really low across the board for all the sites I checked. If the deep crawl is still ongoing, perhaps the index is being built live on www-sj. Would Google ever go to realtime processing of backlinks and continual updates like Inktomi does? Probably way off, but this all seems odd given deepcrawl isn't even over.

[edited by: crobb305 at 8:21 pm (utc) on April 26, 2003]

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