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Penalised Site
What is the chances to be re-indexed?
davidku




msg:192347
 3:38 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi all,

I just registered a domain but just reliased that the domain is with PR 0. Now, I started to put up content in it.

May I know what are the chances for that domain to be re-indexed by Google? Thanks.

 

A_Web_Guy




msg:192348
 3:48 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Did I read this right?

If you just registered the domain, I don't understand the concern. Any domain without a site (or a domain that is not even registered) has a PageRank of zero. Zero is where you start, unless you rub the right lamp and find a Genie.

This is probably because most unregistered sites don't have many incoming links, otherwise, I would have already purchased them. :-)

whatson




msg:192349
 4:11 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Actually sites start with no Pagerank. If it has PR 0 then it is likely penalised. I have also had this problem before also. I have registered domains for clients and later found out that the domain was either banned or penalized from Google. The only thing I could really do was suggest them to purchase a new domain, as there is not much you can otherwise.
It is not easy getting a penalty removed from Google

Marcia




msg:192350
 5:08 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Brand new domain names can have PR0 sitting parked at the registrar until they're activated and put on hosting.

davidku




msg:192351
 5:51 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Same with what my thought is :

New site --> No PR
Penalised site --> PR 0

Already send request to Google Team for re-inclusion but I dont know how long they will take. Since I am new owner and trying my luck in search engine world, I couldn't afford to get a new domain every time. This domain got a nice name.

Hope by getting into ODP can remove the ban.

tigger




msg:192352
 5:55 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

>Hope by getting into ODP can remove the ban

Getting your site listed in Dmoz will not affect any ban/penalty you think the site may have

vitaplease




msg:192353
 5:56 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I wonder if Google will ever differentiate in the Google toolbar between a penalised PR0 and a real PR0. (lets say another colour for questionable status).

EliteWeb




msg:192354
 6:24 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I doubt its a ban on your site or penalty, get content and links and it will fix itself. :D

davidku




msg:192355
 7:38 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I agree that the best way to remove the BAN automatically is to get quality content and quality link to that site again.

Hope Google folks read about this and take some great action.

jezzer72




msg:192356
 9:10 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't think it's a ban. I had a (new) site showing PR0 with perfectly acceptable content but no incoming or outgoing links yet and I'm not worried ...

Just focus on getting links and content!

When GoogleGuy finally hits the red button this should resolve itself ;-)

ciml




msg:192357
 10:27 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

It used to be that domains not in Google's full index would always show grey Toolbar PR. Some of us have seen white Toolbar PR for new domains recently, so I don't think it's a good test any more.

With the cache including fresh listings and fresh listings now staying without a date, it's getting harder to see the full index.

davidku, I wouldn't worry. From your description you'll get PR once one or probably two updates have passed since you've been given a link from a page with real PageRank.

vik_c




msg:192358
 11:03 am on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Is there way to know for sure whether a site is banned or it's PR0 purely because it's new? Does anyone any first hand experience sending a mail to Google and getting a reply?

Dynamoo




msg:192359
 12:03 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

If it's an expired domain it could well have been reset to a PR0, check the Internet Archive to see if it's been active in the past.

If it is a PR0 expired domain I'd recommend leaving at least a full Google cycle before seeking to promote it.

davidku




msg:192360
 4:05 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Will it be risky if I link to a PR0 site using my old websites? It wont cause my old site to be ban right?

Dynamoo




msg:192361
 4:28 pm on Apr 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

My understanding from the analysis of tea leaves that has been going on is that an *expired* PR0 is NOT a penalty, and if links get added to it then it should increase normally.

However, this behaviour of Google and expired domains was new with the last update, so you might learn more if you wait until after the next update.

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