ciml
msg:56635 | 10:17 pm on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Something is worth only what two people think it's worth. I've seen a few obviously bought links on obviously penalised domains, so I don't think that people have much of a clue.
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Brett_Tabke
msg:56636 | 12:00 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
It sure isn't worth as much as it used to be:
[webmasterworld.com...]
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rfgdxm1
msg:56637 | 12:43 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>Something is worth only what two people think it's worth. I've seen a few obviously bought links on obviously penalised domains, so I don't think that people have much of a clue. Right. What they are worth is whatever you can sell these links for. As for people buying links who have a clue, if they must then they definitely would want to pay on a month to month basis, just in case the site linking to them gets penalized.
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Craig_F
msg:56638 | 12:45 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I guess I need to rephrase -- how much would you *pay*?
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Brett_Tabke
msg:56639 | 12:49 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
For a 7? I think it's more important to note the difference between the 7 and you. If you are a 4 or less - I might go for it. If you are a 6, I sure wouldn't. The value to a 6 site would be minimal. Whatever is charged, make it quick, as the value of PR has been falling steadily. That trend is likely to continue.
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GrinninGordon
msg:56640 | 12:50 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
How much would I pay? After what GG said about expired domains, etc. I would offer 3 lira above the normal domain rate :-)
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rfgdxm1
msg:56641 | 1:02 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>I guess I need to rephrase -- how much would you *pay*? It isn't what any of us would pay, because as Brett points out a PR7 link wouldn't be worth much if all reading here have PR6 or better sites. The question is what would people with low PR sites who want a high PR willing to pay? Offhand I've never seen figures posted by people who were selling PR saying what they were getting. And, the value of PR has been falling a lot. Googleguy once even posted that Google had reduced the weighting of PR in the algo because they were concerned about PR for sale.
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Craig_F
msg:56642 | 1:12 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
to be clear, I'm not out selling PR. I get inquiries all the time for links on these pages but I turn them down. This sale is to an associate that I want to help out while still being fair to myself.
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rfgdxm1
msg:56643 | 1:25 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>This sale is to an associate that I want to help out while still being fair to myself. In that case we'd need to know more details about this associates site. As Brett pointed out, if that site is already a PR6, then your link ain't gonna help much. It would also make a difference if your associate was targeting SERPs such that it is hard to do well with less than a PR6 (which is what that link on that PR7 page would likely give the associate).
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Craig_F
msg:56644 | 1:29 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
he's barely a PR4, but he does have some good rankings. I did check his links and he has about 30 *random* PR2-3's linking to him now.
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mrguy
msg:56645 | 1:34 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>This sale is to an associate that I want to help out while still being fair to myself. - Out of curiosity, why do you have to be enumerated monetarily for placing a link on a high PR page if your intent is not to sale PR. If you really want to help him out, give him a link in exchange for one back to you.
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cwebb
msg:56646 | 9:40 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
How much would you charge a regular advertiser?
How much would you want to earn if you put up an affiliate link?
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Jakpot
msg:56647 | 11:05 am on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I just got my first PR7 and will not sell to anyone
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SlyOldDog
msg:56648 | 4:12 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I've seen a PR7 for sale for 100$ a year. I doubt they even know what pagerank is though.
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Alby
msg:56649 | 6:24 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
$10-15/month
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rfgdxm1
msg:56650 | 6:44 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I could see this being worth at least $30 a month if higher PR is what this site need at the moment to do real well. How many other links the PR7 page could be very relevant here.
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Craig_F
msg:56651 | 6:53 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
21 links off of the page. only 2 go off site.
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NFFC
msg:56652 | 6:58 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>I just got my first PR7 and will not sell to anyone Is the correct answer :) Its very hard to get a 7, I can't think of anyone paying *enough* money to put that at risk. Help a few friends out for sure but selling it...its just bottom feeding imho. I'd pay for a link from a 7 page but only if they didn't know what they were selling, hypocritical I know but there you go.
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talismon
msg:56653 | 7:03 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I paid $300 for a text link (for 6 months) on the #3 site for our main keyword at his pr was only a 5. 4 other sites did the same, the value depends on your industry. BTW - I am not proud of it but it was a neccessary evil
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Craig_F
msg:56654 | 7:07 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
> I just got my first PR7 and will not sell to anyone
> Is the correct answer :) Yup, that's why I've never sold before. > selling it...its just bottom feeding Yup, but I sorta owe this person a favor and this was my easiest and most profitable choice. > Help a few friends Who said friend? If it was to a friend I wouldn't be charging :)
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rfgdxm1
msg:56655 | 7:12 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>21 links off of the page. only 2 go off site. Doesn't make a difference if they go off site. Your added link would get in 1/22 of the PR transferred.
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Craig_F
msg:56656 | 7:17 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
> Doesn't make a difference if they go off site.
> Your added link would get in 1/22 of the PR transferred. Yup, I just just mentioned both to be clear.
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Namaste
msg:56657 | 7:18 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
a link in the Yahoo directory costs $299 a year, and that is a PR6, so go figure
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rfgdxm1
msg:56658 | 7:18 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>I paid $300 for a text link (for 6 months) on the #3 site for our main keyword at his pr was only a 5. 4 other sites did the same, the value depends on your industry. I sure hope your reason was based more for traffic from clicking on that link rather than the PR value. If not, you paid WAY too much. As NFFC says a PR7 is very hard to get. However, PR5 isn't that rare. There literally are number of teenagers out there with sites that have a PR5 home page. A PR5 link just ain't worth that much money if the only benefit is transfered PR.
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rfgdxm1
msg:56659 | 7:25 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>a link in the Yahoo directory costs $299 a year, and that is a PR6, so go figure Depends on the directory category your site would fit in. I just saw a PR3 Y! directory cat earlier today.
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JudgeJeffries
msg:56660 | 7:47 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Of academic interest only....
If I have a PR4 and a PR7 links to me what effect will it have on my PR4?
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rfgdxm1
msg:56661 | 7:57 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>If I have a PR4 and a PR7 links to me what effect will it have on my PR4? Probably raise you to a PR6 if the PR7 page has few links.
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JudgeJeffries
msg:56662 | 8:04 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Of academic interest only....
Who discretely sells them?
Not that I would want to buy of course.
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rfgdxm1
msg:56663 | 9:50 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0) |
>Who discretely sells them? Go down to Mac's Bar by the pier late on Friday nights. Ask to speak with Raoul. ;) Those who sell PR7 links are those with PR7 pages willing to sell. If you wish to find such, contact people with PR7 pages and start making offers.
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