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I'll sell my wife for a PR6
pigsfeet

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:15 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have 7 domains with PR5. I have one domain i labor over for hours trying to make it a PR6. It has about 120 backlinks, no spam tactics, and solid content. What do you miracle workers do to get a PR6?

 

cyc123

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:19 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'll have to see a photo of her b4 I make an offer :-)

cheers!

mack

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:29 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think there are laws regarding the trade of humans for pagerank :)

daamsie

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:35 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Think of creative ways of getting high quality links. Depending on your site, you may benefit from putting together a press release and sending this to newspapers, tv stations and any other media you can think of. Often they will have an area where they feature websites and if yours is interesting to them, you stand a good chance. Newspapers are lazy and will gobble up press releases without too much scrutiny. And the PR comes in when they put the link to your site on their website, as is often the case then.. ;) This has worked for me, but I accept it is VERY dependent on your site content!

Shak

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:35 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

whats the highest backlink you have coming in?

as for your wife, sorry NO can do.

GG mentioned that expired domains will in future NOT have the same value, I prefer to register my own :)

Shak

jeremymgp

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:47 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi pigsfeet,

I built a site for about a year before finding webmasterworld.com, and I had a slick-looking Flash index page hardly readable to search engines with virtually no decent HTML content at all. Somehow, I started out with a PR6, and just recently I'm finding out what a bonus that really is. However that Flash intro did probably help me to get the DMOZ Cool Site award for my category, which in turn is perhaps why I got the PR6. Also, I innocently made a site that had a strong concept and branded domain name, not a keyword name, and now I find that I stick out nicely from the crowd, the content comes naturally to me, and I have a dynamic site governed by a dynamic idea, not a keyword. Just keep adding quality content, request links from other relevant sites with your keyword in the link, and have internal links on your own pages. This'll get you PR8 if you hang in there long enough, - although I'm not talking from experience yet ;)

all the best,

Jeremy

Pegasus

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:48 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I had PR6 when my site was still a hobby site, before I knew what pagerank was, and that backlinks were helpful.

How many backlinks do your sites have?

Getting PR7 is the hard one IMHO

cornwall

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:52 am on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

What do you miracle workers do to get a PR6?

You have to consider whether the category you are in is ever likely to get you to PR6, or indeed whether in that category you even need a PR6.

In other words if most competitors for "small oval widgets" have PR of 4 or less, and you have 5, then that should be all you need to get decent positioning against yout key words.

For example I come up position 5 on Google with a PR6 site, a one word keyword and 1.6 million pages found for that word.

There is little point in me aspiring to PR7 with that site!

vitaplease

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Msg#: 10148 posted 12:07 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Think of what content in your sector you would be likely to link to if you had a PR7 page.

PS. what will you sell for a PR7?

troels nybo nielsen

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Msg#: 10148 posted 12:56 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld, pigsfeet and cyc123

I got my two present PR6 pages without actually doing anything for that purpose. They are the results of a decent number of inbound links with decent PR and an internal linking structure that places a rather large part of my PR potential on these two pages. Do you have a page, that would be natural to link to from many of your pages? And if not: Could you create one?

The Subtle Knife

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Msg#: 10148 posted 1:20 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)


I have 7 domains with PR5. I have one domain i labor over for hours trying to make it a PR6. It has about 120 backlinks, no spam tactics, and solid content. What do you miracle workers do to get a PR6?

A question I've been pondering my self, but it's pretty clear, reading around this forum.

Google put a higher weighting on HUMAN EDITED DIRECTORIES.
It knows that to get in that site, a human has to check you out and it knows that yahoo, dmoz are fussy.

That harder the directory/site is to get into, the higher rank you get.

So simple: get into as many human directories as possible.
Note the word HUMAN. ALso get into as many global/golden sites as possible.

You can get a list of "golden sites" by link:www.***.com
It doesn't matter how you get in these.

For example, humans write blogger's.
It's no coincidence that google have got blogger. They can track how human links interact as well as get some adwords infront of us. Personally, If I saw adverts on a blogger site, I'd clear off. I don't want advertising when I'm reading personal sites. Google know this adwords thing is a nice cover for getting more data on blogger links and human interactions.

So get into a lot of blogger.com sites.

Of course, google under estimate how devious humans are in order to get a high page rank.
What humans might actually write fake commentry to get links from golden sites.

Those PHD's aren't that clever. google gave humans supreme rights before (google bomb) now they are trying to
do the same, but write filters to detect people faking it.
They can't do it yet.
Just before google bombs were known, google was very good very useful.
If you notice now, it's pretty much pants. alltheweb and teoma often produce better and more accurate results.
Their also is too complicated, the simplicity and honesty of people linking before made sense.

Now it doesn't. We know getting loads of links and good content get's you up there. if everyone is doing that what the next level of filtering?

Human "references" to your site. clearly.

How do you write a filter that finds human references to your site? When buy blogger for starters.

But those PHDS haven't realised one thing.

HUMANS LIE.

DON'T SELL YOUR WIFE, JUST LIE A LOT.

I also have a feeling that google are monitoring this site, to find what SEO's are thinking to write better filters.

so, for all the guys at google "Hello! "

AthlonInside

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Msg#: 10148 posted 1:46 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

pigsfeet,

If you wife read this thread, she might offer to sell you for only PR2. ;)

creative craig

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Msg#: 10148 posted 1:54 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have a site thats been online for four months, aiming for a fairly competitve keyword (returns 3,830,000 reults) and is ranked number 5!

The good thing is that it only has a PageRank of 2 :)

Craig

TomWaits

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Msg#: 10148 posted 2:35 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I already sold my wife for higher PR. Best deal I ever made. Next dance, first born son goes. (JK, happily married.)

casperkor

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Msg#: 10148 posted 2:55 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Pigsfeet..

From a woman's standpoint,

I wouldn't trade you for a PR2..

I would spam, and bomb, and link farm you and hide you in the text, and then report your site and have the
Google Cops take you away!
:)

Spica

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Msg#: 10148 posted 3:05 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

One way to get a PR6 easily just from one inbound link is to change your topic. For example, if your site is all about Albert Einstein (i.e., totally unimportant topic), the best you can get from an ODP link is a PR4. However, if you make a single-page site on jell-o (now, thatís REALLY important!), you can get a link from DMOZ that will make you a high PR6 right from the start. Then maybe you can link to the rest of your site on Einstein from this really important jell-o page (finding relevance: maybe Einstein liked jell-o?).
Other way: write good content, and be patient.
Good luck!

The Subtle Knife

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Msg#: 10148 posted 3:17 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)


Other way: write good content, and be patient.

I've seen this kind of advice bandied about everywhere along with 1 year plans.

Most poeple here are SEO in some way, they are already doing or done that or know about it, so it's totally useless advice.

Is does not explain all the low PR sites, with virtually no content, and low in bound links that are getting high ranks.

CCowboy

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Msg#: 10148 posted 3:35 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have a PR7 and can't even get a date! Send Picture... or maybe she has a sister.

hetzeld

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Msg#: 10148 posted 3:40 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi Pigsfeet,

Last month, I got a brand new PR6. Fortunately, I didn't have to sell my wife to get it, because this month I'm back to PR5 and I'm quite happy that my wife is still there. LOL

Dan

PS: I'd rather sell my mother in law ...

ciml

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Msg#: 10148 posted 3:47 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

> [...] so it's totally useless advice

It works for me and a lot of other people.

It's a problem I have with customers, sometimes they want a quick fix. Good content takes effort, patience can be very difficult for some people.

There are people who do very well with quick fixed, but often it's not for long at a time. People here who've been in competitive fields for some time will have seen such sites come and go.

cornwall

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Msg#: 10148 posted 3:54 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Other way: write good content, and be patient....
.... so it's totally useless advice.

Not so, its the only real plan worth following for a web site. Sure you have to optimise, sure you can pick up tips here, but in the end algorithms change, sites come and go, but if you have good content and keep up with changes, you will get good results.

There is no quick fix, and if there was you would not find those who have found the holy grail sharing the knowledge ;)

cornwall

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Msg#: 10148 posted 4:01 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'll sell my wife for a PR6

Let us say that you sold your wife and got a PR6 site. What next? What do you sell to get a PR7. Your soul?

Look what happened to Dr Faustus (Dr. Faustus is the tale of an alchemist who sells his soul to the devil in exchange for 24 years of total Satanic indulgence)

The Subtle Knife

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Msg#: 10148 posted 4:10 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)


There is no quick fix, and if there was you would not find those who have found the holy grail sharing the knowledge ;)

Yes, because that's how humans are: selfish?
Or if everyone knew, google would filter it out?

Like I said, I'm assuming people have very basic common sense. So they *already know* about creating content and waiting 12 months. I've written this loads of times now, I
can't see why you don't actually read what I'm saying.
I'm assuming people have common sense and are already working to the "obvious" 12 month plan.

So now that we are all doing that, what else can we do?

As far as I can see I've exlained it in my earlier post in this thread. You don't need to sell your wife, or your soul to the devil.

YOU JUST HAVE TO LIE A LOT.

Googles algo no matter how clever it is or will be, CAN'T SPOT LIES.

ONLY HUMANS CAN.

chiyo

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Msg#: 10148 posted 4:14 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>I wouldn't trade you for a PR2.. <<

He He,, you deserved that pigsfeet!

pigsfeet

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Msg#: 10148 posted 7:27 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks everyone for your advice. I've hinted to my wife that she might get to go on a vacation soon. She is really bouncing off the walls happy.

The keyword I'm targetting really needs a PR6. There are around 30 sites ahead of me with a PR6 for the search. I'm good at writing solid content, I got a lot of good practice back in the infoseek days. I didn't have to do much to get the PR5's , but this PR6 seems untouchable no matter how hard I work at it. My backlinks are mostly PR4 and PR5.

o0_cops_0o



 
Msg#: 10148 posted 8:07 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

this is off topic..how do you guys....and gals, make the pink boxes with someones statment?

BigDave

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Msg#: 10148 posted 8:19 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

YOU JUST HAVE TO LIE A LOT.

I recommend this plan for everyone who cannot take the time to do things right.

I think I will take the advice of others on this one. That advice should help many people decide how good your advice is.

o0_cops_0o



 
Msg#: 10148 posted 8:27 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

my first test sorry

never mind i figured it out lol

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 10148 posted 8:31 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

>What do you miracle workers do to get a PR6?

This is *trivial* if you know the angles. I won't mention some of them, but the one I will mention is one that is obvious to all around here with half a clue: get a link from a PR7 page with few outbound links. If I actually thought it was important, I could easily get my sites to PR6 from the current PR5. Instead I just have worked on doing very well with a PR5. Unless you are targeting some really competetive SERPs, PR5 should be adequate. And, if you run a commercial site and need a PR6, I'd say buy the links needed to get it.

HackingLawyer

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Msg#: 10148 posted 11:22 pm on Mar 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

casperkor- bit of an extreme comment don't you think? The man just used an unusuaal title to get people to pay attention to his post!

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