Xenozenith

msg:139728 | 4:49 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
It's started! My new domain now has about 70 pages listed on www2 and www3, still only about 12 on www. But it's happening! As I believe I may have said a couple of days ago, I didn't think Google's update was a simple "swap the directories and there you go" instantaneous kind of thing, but rather a long propagation process that would take days. For the first time in years I might have been right! Well best of luck to all of you - we all work hard for reach and frequency, and Google obviously works hard for interest and relevancy. Google rocks. Maybe now I can get some sleep...zzz -Xenozenith
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NickCoons

msg:139729 | 4:50 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
One of my backlinks that is showing up is a PR3 page. I thought it was commonly believed that a site had to be at least PR4 to show as a backlink in Google. Is this something new with this update, or have others noticed this before?
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figment88

msg:139730 | 4:50 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Hey if your crawling more dynamic pages, wouldn't it be a good idea to smack someone over at AOL to get them to unescape them? Seems like there will be more 404's throughout the world.
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marcs

msg:139731 | 4:51 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Just something fun to lower blood pressure for a few seconds. My wife went to bed about an hour ago. I told her the dance had started and her reply was "don't try to lead" :) Yes, I have two left feet :) Now for all of you who have "ways you won't share" to determine the early signs of the start of the dance. I have one that 100% proof. Every day when we put our son to sleep, he asks my wife and I what we will dream of. About a week ago, I told him "the Google dance". Tonight, he told me (8PM EST) he was going to dream of the "goo-goo dance". There we have it ladies and gentlemen. No need to check every 5 minutes, next time my son says this, I'll post it :)
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Pegasus

msg:139732 | 4:52 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
If your page isn't showing up, check back a few pages, you may be looking at an unupdated index, and you may have fluxed back a page.
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Alphawolf

msg:139733 | 4:58 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
GG, Thanks for the soothing words. :) I'm sure everyone _____REALLY_____ appreciates the time you take to post here. Major Kudos to GoogleGuy for taking the time to talk to us anonymous little folk! And...thanks for pushing that shiny red button finally! ;) I picked up on some good Top 20 SERPs since last update. Now we can go to bed here on Eastern US and wake up to a shiny new Internet world. :) Regards, AW
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NickCoons

msg:139734 | 4:59 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I've got a site showing up in the SERPs with a directory tag for the first time. I'm assuming that means the ODP dump took, or is currently.
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Buckley

msg:139735 | 5:01 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Quick question. I see the same results on www2 as www but www3 has changed. Is what you see on www3 what you will end up with on www when it migrates over? Or could i expect changes in my rank? Results on www3 show a drop of 3 positions....nothing dramatic but dissapointing if it stays that way. Oh well, as they say.....keep adding the content! Also, how long do you think we have got to add new content b 4 deep crawl? Thanks And Good Luck everybody!
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Buckley

msg:139736 | 5:03 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Nick...my site is showing the same thing too! But when i went to the directory it hadn't updated yet. But the description is there at long last.
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tsdpsg

msg:139737 | 5:05 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Thanks GoogleGuy, I've sent the email and am hoping for the best. We all appreciate your communication here!
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TheComte

msg:139738 | 5:05 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Looking good for me so far! Why am I posting this? Who cares but me? hehe :)
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NickCoons

msg:139739 | 5:09 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Buckley, The description is there, so when the update is finished it should be in the directory. I'm assuming the directory update hasn't finished yet, or is correlated somehow with a particular stage of the full update which hasn't happened yet.
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diddlydazz

msg:139740 | 5:09 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
don't forget googlebot is going to be hot on the heels of this update, add them pages now! I am :o) Dazz
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annej

msg:139741 | 5:11 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
On www2 & 3 I'm getting a significant drop in homepage backlinks but of the ones that are listed the drop seems to be primarily internal link loss. Yet it still shows a few internal links so Google must still be counting them some. I know, it's still early.
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Mawashi

msg:139742 | 5:12 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
A simple question : I have more internals and external backlinks with pr4 , this links not appear in www2 why? have you a idea . Thanks
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coconutz

msg:139743 | 5:12 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
| One of my backlinks that is showing up is a PR3 page. I thought it was commonly believed that a site had to be at least PR4 to show as a backlink in Google. Is this something new with this update, or have others noticed this before? |
| NickCoons, I had a PR2 backlink listed during the dance last month, when the update was completed it was a PR4.
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daisho

msg:139744 | 5:13 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Hey is there anyway to check what your new PR is going to be or do I/we just have to wait until the update is finished?
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indigojo

msg:139745 | 5:14 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Is anyone seeing any change in PR, or is it a bit early for that?
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GoogleGuy

msg:139746 | 5:15 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
diddlydazz--good point. We'll probably start crawling again soon to get closer to the usual schedule.
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o0_cops_0o

msg:139747 | 5:18 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Your search - link:http://www.yahoo.com - did not match any documents this is whats coming up now for www.google.com
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kingcong

msg:139748 | 5:18 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
This may be a very stupid Q, but if I'm already on Google, and I want my site to be respidered, do I have to resubmit it, or will it automatically do it? Thanks
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zan_d

msg:139749 | 5:19 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
i see a significant drop in link:'s to my site yet most of my important SERP rankings improved No ODP line on results yet either i'm on a mac yet so i can't check my pagerank, is there another way to do this? and maybe even use the www2 ip?
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tfelice

msg:139750 | 5:19 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I added a ton of new pages to one of my sites. Some of them are listed correctly, but some of them are showing on www2 and www3 with only the URL - no title, description or cached page. The listings look like this: www.mysite.com/keyword/keyword2 Similar pages All of the pages were done on the same template, all of them were uploaded around the same time. Why would some of them get indexed correctly yet some of them have this odd looking result?
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o0_cops_0o

msg:139751 | 5:19 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
you dont have to resubmit
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askjoe

msg:139752 | 5:20 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
how lond does an update last - when will the final results arrive?
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tsdpsg

msg:139753 | 5:21 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
kingcong, you don't have to resubmit.
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zan_d

msg:139754 | 5:22 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
askjoe: generally a few days i belive
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JeremyL

msg:139755 | 5:23 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
Hmmm, In old database www.domain.com/links.php?op=visit&lid=11 was counted as a link to my site and others I watch. In new database all references to this type of link I have seen disapeared. Thats a shame. Not sure if it's just the particular site the links are coming from or if this is part of an algo switch.
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NickCoons

msg:139756 | 5:24 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
coconutz, <NickCoons, I had a PR2 backlink listed during the dance last month, when the update was completed it was a PR4.> I've noticed that the PR for each of my pages keeps changing on the toolbar every few seconds. I imagine that is the case with this backlink as well.
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nancyb

msg:139757 | 5:25 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
I watched and watched all day, then went to work on a new site for someone and gosh darn if I didn't miss the first steps. >stirring sticks and scurrying ants ..... oilman, you made my night! Good luck everyone
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GoogleGuy

msg:139758 | 5:27 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0) |
tfelice, those are pages that we saw but didn't get a chance to crawl. It's normal to have some crawled pages and some uncrawled pages in the index.
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