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UPDATE! Google Feb/March 2003 - The Boston Update!
Official - Confirmed - Real - Name: Boston
rfgdxm1




msg:139578
 3:38 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

YES......................................

 

Napoleon




msg:139848
 7:53 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Not an enormous change... but then of course, it didn't need it.

In my sectors there have been one or two minor adjustments in the returns, which despite a neutral outcome for me, in fairness probably enhance the quality slightly. I think a 'well done' is due for that.

So certainly quality wise, no problems and probably improvement. The dilemma they probably face is time... how to keep the index as fresh as possible without any impact on that quality. That's a hard one of course.

Overall then, a thumbs up from here, even without any personal gain.

NickCoons




msg:139849
 7:54 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

casperkor,

<Can someone please explain to me now that I have the backlinks in the index (one of them to a SPOT 1, PAGE 1, 1 WORD keyword site).. how come I am having worse search results for my pages on www2 and www3 , when supposedly that is what is suppose to give you credibility around here.>

Of course we can only speculate without having lots of details for both pre- and post-update, but one thing to keep in mind with your ranking after an update is that you're not the only webmaster obtaining backlinks; you're competitors are probably trying to promote their sites as well, and they simply may have made certain changes to their sites to increase their ranking.

Other possibilities are changes that you've made to your own site. While PR is somewhat important to your ranking, it's not the only factor. There are other things that effect you ranking, like your content, or your competitor's content.

diddlydazz




msg:139850
 7:59 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

for those new to the update, make sure you read this [webmasterworld.com] it will answer a lot of the questions being asked in this thread.

enjoy the update :o)

Dazz

currington




msg:139851
 8:00 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Good Luck every body.

casperkor




msg:139852
 8:01 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi Nick,

I appreciate the reply ... but that's just it.. obviously
if my site is new and I am already attracting 200 REPEAT visitors (not counting new visitors) per day.. I must have some sort of Good content right? I thought that was pretty good for a site that has been in and out of the index for most of the past month.

Anyway, I take it.. that the www shoe will be dropping soon and no hope for my pages staying put?

crobb305




msg:139853
 8:16 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have noticed the new index on the main www server for over an hour...and links to yahoo are all the same standing at 692k. Could we see an early settle of the update? I have never seen results on www this fast.

c

rfgdxm1




msg:139854
 8:24 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I just saw updated results in www.google.com just now. Good, as in this update I am up in the SERPs. ;)

Beachboy




msg:139855
 8:27 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes, things are looking good for me also. A couple new sites have struck gold. Now, are we going to see a second update this month?

crobb305




msg:139856
 8:28 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am not sure I have ever seen the new index stable on www for so long, this early in the update. Hopefully things will settle quickly.

Zapatista




msg:139857
 8:36 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I climbed a little bit but not as much as I was hoping. Can't complain though as my goal is longevity and maintaining what I have already achieved.

WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE TOP 3

Besides, when you reach the top 3, you become a big target for all your competitors who will do anything underhanded to take you out. By staying in the #4 to #7 range (me) for 5 different keywords, I am less of a target.

Getting into the top 3 unfailingly means:

1. Your competitors will see spam where there isn't any. Nevertheless, 50 spam reports will be sent to Google who will undoubtably scrutinize you more.

2. Your competitor will just flat out copy your site ad infinitum in hopes of penalizing you.

3. Negative innuendos about your business will appear on your competitors sites.

4. Expect your email address to be the one that is used to register at 500 ffa pages. Consequence = 300 emails a day.

5. Your site will receive 900 links from guestbooks that your competitor signed you up for.

6. Your competitor will trash you in the chat rooms relevant to your field.

I am comfortable $$ in the #4-7 ranking range and nobody is shooting at me.

Yet.

I also rank top #3 for minor kws my competitors don't know or don't care about and it helps to fly in under their radar.

Longevity and slow, solid growth is my goal and that is what I am getting. If it were anything else, I would be nervous.

jeffb711




msg:139858
 8:38 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

i see it 692,000 link:www.yahoo.com

my isp was having a denial of service attack - i saw the google bot was on my site at 3:12am using this ip address 64.68.82.77, and 64.68.82.71

then it looks like my site went down, will this hurt me?

<snip> - I'll demand like 6 months free if it does hurt me - or do you think it's already over and done with?

[edited by: Marcia at 8:47 am (utc) on Mar. 7, 2003]

wanderingmind




msg:139859
 8:39 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes it has started!

My site is showing newer cached pages and showing up much higher in www2 and www3. This is from India!

Made In Sheffield




msg:139860
 8:40 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Missed it again, 3am when it started here (UK).

Next time.......

No PR increase but ranking's gone up, hit number one for another phrase and got from 6 to 3 for a major one. Went from 541 to 289 for the main phrase I'm going for (it's a big one).

Cheers,

Hope everyone has good results,

Nigel

jeffb711




msg:139861
 8:43 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

whoa - michaelangelo back up on www.google.com

is this what you all mean by dancing?

james gulliver




msg:139862
 8:45 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

has anybosy seen changes in the uk?

new_shoes




msg:139863
 8:46 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Zapatista, I really wouldn't like to be in your industry - doesn't sound very friendly at all!

I know for sure it's not like this in my niche-field.

I mean, submitting your email so a competitor gets more spam?! That's just mean. Do you know for sure this is actually happening?

Anyone else in an industry that's this aggressively competitive?

sachac




msg:139864
 8:46 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

In my category, there is basically one mega keyword. In the few months I have been around this site I have been able to take my site from virtual oblivion, for this keyword, to #4 amongst 2,500,000 results. This is huge global branding! You would not believe the big names I now out-rank.

Thanks to all for giving us small fry the opportunity to sWebmasterWorldith the sharks and not be eaten alive.

onionrep




msg:139865
 8:54 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have to echo zapatista sentiments.

Being #1 2 or 3 in very competitive serps can cause problems from jealous snipers.

On a positive note, great update thus far :) I have moved up a few notches on quite a few kw terms.

NickCoons




msg:139866
 8:55 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

casperkor,

<Anyway, I take it.. that the www shoe will be dropping soon and no hope for my pages staying put?>

I don't know if we can accurately predict what's going to happen on www until it actually happens.

jeffb711




msg:139867
 8:59 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

my page rank went from 4 to 3?

i made improvements?

are things still being adjusted

i saw link:www.yahoo.com was back to 642,000

Noximus




msg:139868
 8:59 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi everybody,
I got my site listed in google in Three days and it's placed on the keywords which i needed and it's in www.
Maybe it's temporal but may be it is not...

Haakon




msg:139869
 9:02 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

My PR also dropped from 6 to 5. Backlinks from 480 to 80 (internals), and I expected it to double :) No crisis at all but a little unexpecting, at least the new pages will show up in search... I hope.

newsparrot




msg:139870
 9:04 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

james gulliver For some reason we seem to be last in seeing any dance, but my sites are moving up! Great to see GG staying up to the wee small hours,shows he cares.

jeffb711




msg:139871
 9:05 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

haakon

i'm back to 4

although i wanted at least a 5 - i guess we're still dancing

it's out of our hands now.

Canary




msg:139872
 9:11 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Anyone Noticed that Fresh Dates are showing in www3/ aswell - but not in www.

Disproves the theory that the Update cant happen when Freshbots about?

Alec Doggone




msg:139873
 9:13 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

If you're not seeing the changes at www3 in the UK, go to www2.google.com and do it there. Works for me.

Zapatista




msg:139874
 9:13 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

new shoes, it happens and I read about it a lot here on WebmasterWorld.

85 percent of all webmasters are overgrown immature children. Pessimistic but true I think. Greed makes them ugly. A self inflated ego and getting beaten in the serps makes them ugly. Jealousy makes them ugly.

Hard work and worrying about one's own site requires too much. It's too demanding for those with a low frustration tolerance. (LFT)

It is always easier to destroy than it is to build.

It's an ugly world and nobody lives in Happy Valley anymore. The internet may have brought the world closer together but it also revealed how ugly we really are.

aurora




msg:139875
 9:22 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Changes have been occuring briefly this morning in UK

GoogleGuy




msg:139876
 9:23 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Okay, this time I really am heading to bed.. see you later. :)

theleveller




msg:139877
 9:24 am on Mar 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

My first update watch, and so far getting number 1 postion on my keywordson www3 & www2, when does this go over to the UK versions 24 hours?

yippeee



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