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Submitting New Sites - But Where To Now?
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austtr

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Msg#: 381 posted 6:29 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

It has been quite some time since I've done any serious SEO work and the search engine battlefield sure seems a lot different now. I've been lurking again in this wonderland of tips, tricks and techniques and the message I think I'm seeing is that submitting a site these days should include:

Google - free submit

ODP - free submit

Yahoo! - pay for review (its a commercial site)

Fast - pay for inclusion (flows through to Lycos, Excite & others)

Inktomi - pay for inclusion (flows through to MSN, AOL and others)

Is this a reasonable assessment on the current situation? What is the general feeling about AltaVista... is it worth spending money on? Same question regarding the AskJeeves/Teoma deal.

There is no interest in pay per click, so Looksmart and Overture are ruled out.

Look forward to any comments from folks up to speed on the latest SE scene.

 

NFFC

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Msg#: 381 posted 9:10 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

If you are looking to spend a little getting listed it is getting harder to find value. Here's what we do;

Pay Yahoo - Choice of cat is important, you need to find the balence between the core cats that pull the search and the highest PR. If you can only choose one go for the search cat.

AV - No need to pay for "quality" sites, they will pick you up from the Y! what's new page, traffic is surprising good. The description you get at Y! will help determine your rankings, AV rely on it [at least when first listed], look on it as a boost for keywords that also appear in the Y! description.

Ink - Maybe PFI for 1 page. Traffic is not great and with the coming loss of AOL will get worse. Rumours abound that they will lose MSN and their financial position makes ME doubt that they will be able to deliver on their 12 month commitment.

ASK/Teoma - Not enough traffic to justify paying. They claim to be focusing on building a quality index [300-500 mil pages], take them at their word and with quality dirctory listings you should be in eventually.

Fast - Depends on the site, small sites will see some reward from PFI, throw 1/2 a dozen pages at them. Their PFI rates are the cheapest and we need to give them some income to help stop Google taking over the www. :) There are some indications that going PFI will not prevent them adding other pages from your site, this is good news, throw a few $ in the Fast pot.

Google - Let them find you. We always used to start new sites with an ad words campaign, again to give them a little income in thanks for the future traffic. Since they have insisted on giving PR0 on a number of our sites and no longer answer our email we no longer do this.

DMOZ - A joy, wonderful, best listing on the www and FREE!

In addition we dig around looking for some quality industry specific directories/portals, traffic can be surprisingly high from these sources.

I'm sure others may see it differently but this approuch works for us.

angiolo

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Msg#: 381 posted 9:22 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thank you NFFC for the excellent information!

I didn't know that AV pick sites up from the Y! what's new page.

So the best procedure is:

- express submission to Yahoo
- free submission to DMOZ

NFFC

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Msg#: 381 posted 9:29 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>AV pick sites up from the Y! what's new page.

Lets keep it to ourselves :)

I can't guarantee it but every recent site we have submitted to Y! has been picked up off the whats new page. They are so fast that I seen referals from AV before the comfirmation for Y! has been receieved.

makemetop



 
Msg#: 381 posted 9:38 am on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>every recent site we have submitted to Y! has been picked up off the whats new page. They are so fast that I seen referals from AV before the comfirmation for Y! has been receieved.

Likewise - it's great!

austtr

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Msg#: 381 posted 10:03 pm on Jun 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks NFFC... good concise summation. Just what I was after... and some lessons learned as well!

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