My question.. actually looking to get some thoughts on this..
when creating doorway pages.. Let's say the main page the doorways will be pointing to is a frames page.. let's call it index.htm.
By making the doorway page with a frameset tag, using the exact same frameset tags as the index.htm page.. and.. heavily optimizing the doorway page in the noframes tag portion of that page... wouldn't this be a very effective way to get the doorway page both highly optimized yet never being visable to anyone.. it will simply call the frameset and load the main page as you want visitors to see it.
This would avoid all java redirect or Meta refresh tags.. It would seem to me that the SE's would index this doorway page by using the text, meta tags, title etc.. of the doorway yet the doorway would call the main page using a frameset..
Placing optimized text in the noframes section has always been a great workaround though most never place any text in this tag.. but it seems using this technique with doorways could be very effective
The only ones who would ever see the doorway is if someone is still using a non frames browser.. Not many..
Being a founding charter member of the "I hate frames fan club" going back to Netscape 2, I'm not the one to ask on this issue. It sounds good in theory, but those engines that do index frames are going to snoop down into your site anyway. You'd have to figure out some cloaking for those. At current Excite is the only known engine to index frame sets. Inktomi DOES read them and do "whatever" with the data (they don't list it in an engine anywhere that I know about).
All I can say is that I've tried what you suggested (no frames text) and it never worked well at all.