| 6:29 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)|
All those services are pretty much worthless... Your better off submitting by hand (for free). Most search engines have an "add url" button on there site (usually at the bottom)
| 11:04 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)|
I'd advise that you stay away from these "submission" companies that just submit your URL to thousands of search engines. It's crazy. All you need to do is focus on the top 10-15 and manually submit your web site. Actually, a majority of the time, these major search engines & directories supply their results to the other smaller engines & directories.
Submissions shouldn't take long to do. Place emphasis on your directory submissions - ex. category, title, description.
|brotherhood of LAN|
| 11:32 pm on Mar 19, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Patience is definetely a virtue too. If you are not paying for inclusion, wait at least 3 months before you get any decent amount of traffic.
Your site will have to "filter through" the web during this time to get noticed, and thats when traffic picks up from your submissions
IMO those 3000+ submissions and the like for $9.99 could *possibly* be considered spam by search engines, which runs the risk of you getting banned (possible)
Hand submit to all the free engines still gets good traffic, and if you are not selling anything, getting listed in zeal/looksmart is a major bonus
| 12:23 am on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Before you do any submitting, make sure you have optimized pages first before submitting, make sure you follow each search engines guidelines for site submissions, make sure you keep a note of the pages you submit and the dates you submit. Once you submit, as brotherhood of LAN says you should not expect anything for at least 3 months.
If you are looking to employ someone to look after this aspect of your business, that's an entirely different proposition.
Far too many companies waste months trying to DIY while they learn. I can't get my head around the fact that people have 6-12 months of failure before waking up to smell the coffee and realise that some input, even if it's only a small amount of consultancy, could save so much time and effort and heartache in the long run.
I wonder if we could do a poll to see how many people have been sacked for failing to get their company web site traffic after saying that they could?
|brotherhood of LAN|
| 12:36 am on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Webdiversity, I maintain my own site and admit I would never pay anyone else for "SEO"
I find that the niche for the site comes over time, settling in for popular keywords while you gather info about replacing your less successful keywords
Its like a continual case of trial and error, because the goalposts are moved with each update (paid listings aside)
Im sure companies could learn to promote their site effectively, but a quicker success rate and ROI would be better placed with your suggestions of an SEO webdiversity :)
| 9:28 pm on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)|
>>I am very confused about all these services which promise getting ones URL onto search engines.<<
If you just want to submit to the majors, you can use:
Google [google.com] - They'll probbaly find your site anyway if there are any links to it. Just submit home page.
AltaVista [addurl.altavista.com] fill out the form and submit each page you want indexed. The Express inclusion isn't worth much.
Wisenut [wisenut.com] (Owned by LookSmart now) Just submit the homepage
YAHOO! [yahoo.com] - Find the best category and get ready to cough up $299.00/year to be listed unless you are in a non commercial cat. Pick up some tips in the YAHOO! [webmasterworld.com] forum on how to do it right the first time.
Submit to ODP [dmoz.org] and LookSmart [listings.looksmart.com] but check out the directories forum [webmasterworld.com] first. Those'll get ya started with some of the more important places to submit.
You will find the cost for submissions at the respective sites. If you want to work on your rankings, the cost is all over the map if you don't want to do it yourself.
Welcome to WebMasterWorld, Pkabcenell!
| 9:32 pm on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Skibaum, i agree with you completely possibly to the extent of submitting just to the ODP, LS.com and Yahoo, and letting the spiders find you from the directory cats, and if listed appropriately in the cats, then while waiting for the spiders to come, build up decent high PR reciprocal links relevant to the sites contents.