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.cc, .tv and .ws
rcjordan




msg:698289
 6:49 pm on Oct 24, 2000 (gmt 0)

in an AV forum thread, rmccabe asks:
I know that .cc, .tv and .ws have been licensed to US companies and are being heavily promoted here. Any idea how these will fare?

His concern, I believe, is whether there's any SEO penalty built into those top-level domains -a very valid question. I have a broader one:
Has anyone registered any of these? While I am a big believer in .coms, I have no interest in owning any of these. Does anyone?

 

rmccabe




msg:698290
 7:38 pm on Oct 24, 2000 (gmt 0)

I have registered a couple, hence my interest in how they will fare...

Woz




msg:698291
 8:04 am on Oct 25, 2000 (gmt 0)

I think everyone will agree that .com .net & .org are the domains to beat all domains unless you are country specific.

.cc .tv & .ws are country specific doamins that are being "marketed" as alternatives, and sometimes incorrectly so. Anyone else see .ws marketed as the new "World Site" domain?? it is really Western Samoa. Taht is what annoys mw most about these domains, not the domains themselves, but the questionable marketing being used to sell them

Having said that, I guess they could have thsir uses like the .to doamin of Tonga. as in come.to go.to etc.

.tv seems suited to Television (Duh!) and I guess .ws could be perceived as World Site, but I think their sparkle will wear off.

I must admit I also have little interest in them. My market is the world!!!

Onya
Woz

Edited by: Woz

rcjordan




msg:698292
 2:28 pm on Oct 25, 2000 (gmt 0)

> their sparkle will wear off.
What sparkle? I think these things are DOA, except -as you mentioned- TV if I owned a TV station or I was vaguely interested in a country-specific url. (Pssst! I have about 40 .US domains -worthless!)

Woz




msg:698293
 3:32 pm on Oct 25, 2000 (gmt 0)

>>What sparkle? I think these things are DOA...

True, ... to those in the know. However to the uninitiated they may still look attractive.

Some time ago I was looking for a .com, couldn't have it, and then saw an ad for .ws. Ah Ha, I thought, I can still get a "good" domain. after all, .ws did stand for World Site didn't it! Didn't it?? A little research and I realied not.

Those who don't keep an ear to the ground could be duped. That is my beef more than anything else, the marketing. But I have already said that.

Onya
Woz

sugarkane




msg:698294
 3:33 pm on Oct 25, 2000 (gmt 0)

Some of these are going for silly money - web.tv is up for $1million *a year* according to a contact of mine.

Crazy.

The one I was interested in was 1000 a year, but when I expressed an interest, the price strangely doubled overnight...

mnw




msg:698295
 1:48 am on Nov 3, 2000 (gmt 0)

What country is .tv ? (Really, really bad sentence structure)

Woz




msg:698296
 4:50 am on Nov 3, 2000 (gmt 0)

.tv = Tuvalo (spelling??) They get something like US$50m for giving the sales rights to one company who are making MILLIONS!

Onya
Woz

oilman




msg:698297
 6:27 am on Nov 3, 2000 (gmt 0)

>>ws marketed as the new "World Site"

register.com offers them as 'web site'

Woz




msg:698298
 9:48 am on Nov 3, 2000 (gmt 0)

>>ws marketed as the new "World Site"
>>register.com offers them as 'web site'

Whatever, they are both wrong and misleading!

Onya
Woz

eljefe3




msg:698299
 2:14 pm on Nov 3, 2000 (gmt 0)

Anyone want computers4u.ws ?

going cheap......gone.

Sold to the sucker that bought in on the "World Site" premise...Me

Woz




msg:698300
 7:42 am on Nov 4, 2000 (gmt 0)

eljefe3,

congrats on your new domain, computers4u.ws.

I am a little annoyed at myself though for letting that one slip by.

I didn't think there was enough of a market around for selling Computers to Female Sheep. Still, I guess I could always start up a brother site for upgrading said computers - ram4u.ws

Onya
Woz

thepunter




msg:698301
 10:25 pm on Nov 25, 2000 (gmt 0)

.tv are they worthwhile?

Do any of you think that a .tv name will be in any favorable for web tv?

Currently this is just kicking off but I can see a future explosion in it's use.

Possible future trends possible directories of web tv friendly sites etc. Specific web tv search engines etc.

I think this new tv accessed market is going to dwarf anything we see at the minute. Not based on any industry reports, just gut instict. The easier you make it the more people will use it.

That is the benefit I see in .tv Nothing to do with tv stations.

To tell you the truth I am not too clued up technically on web tv. Not too clued up technically on anything to tell you the truth. :)

Just a self taught home site webmaster pulling a few hundred thousand impressions a month.

Any industry experts out there with any further views on .tv?

Possibly not the right forum but is there any guidance anywhere for designing a site to be web tv friendly? Does it place restictions?

I plan to go to a tv shop and look at my own site through web tv. Perhaps others should do the same.

All the best

Michael

tedster




msg:698302
 1:29 am on Nov 26, 2000 (gmt 0)

Hi Michael,

On their website [developer.webtv.net] WebTV offers a free simulator you can download to your desktop -- and lots of tips to make your site "WebTV friendly".

I am opening a new thread [webmasterworld.com] in the Browser Forum to talk about the WebTV browser -- we'll let this thread go back to the issues around Domain Names.

Billythekid




msg:698303
 6:10 am on Nov 26, 2000 (gmt 0)

had .cc names, useless... let them expire but it took six months for the names to finally be shut down. I really think that domain suffixes will not be important for too many more years except that .com will show longevity and foresight... maybe.

tedster




msg:698304
 7:40 am on Nov 26, 2000 (gmt 0)

Billy, did you actively work to get your .cc domains well-ranked?

Marcia




msg:698305
 9:32 am on Nov 26, 2000 (gmt 0)

ROFL..How did I miss this one? Woz, I just got it!! selling computers to female sheep...LOL..upgrades...:)

Billythekid




msg:698306
 2:12 am on Nov 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

>>Billy, did you actively work to get your .cc domains well-ranked?<<

Yes

rcjordan




msg:698307
 2:26 am on Nov 28, 2000 (gmt 0)

>except that .com will show longevity and foresight

One other thing, .com is now tatooed on the cortex of the average US surfer. To have anything else requires you to actively work to deprogram the user while trying to market at the same time. Just today I ran across referrals from an ad campaign in a major enviromentalist/green website. It seems that my .org competitor purchased some banners, but someone programmed the banner redirect to .com -it happens all the time.

Marn




msg:698308
 8:21 pm on Jan 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

Good URLs to know WHAT country these extensions stand for and some WHOIS links:

[sunnyoasis.com...]

[domainit.com...]

Gamiziuk




msg:698309
 3:40 am on Jan 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

There are .US domains available also. In some places they are available for free. The only drawback, is that the US Registrar is very strict in how they are issued.

All US domains are issued with Your State and City attached to them. Only Your Business Name or Your personal name are allowed to be issued. You cannot deviate from this format.

This can create some pretty lengthy domain names:
[miziuk.daytona-beach.fl.us...] (My PERSONAL Domain) and
[ukrainian.daytona-beach.fl.us...] (Domain I registered for the social club I belong to)

They are "okay" for personal sites, but they are really cumbersome for buisiness sites.

The US Department of Commerce is currently studying a proposal to DROP the City and maybe the State requirement for the US domains, thus:
[microsoft.redmond.wa.us...] (This would be Microsoft's domain under current US Domain rules) could be issued in the future as:
[microsoft.wa.us...] or [microsoft.us...] or maybe [microsoft.com.us...]

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