Msg#: 3669 posted 12:45 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
On the side, have you seen who's .eu registrar no. 666? :D
Msg#: 3669 posted 1:00 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
|On the side, have you seen who's .eu registrar no. 666? :D |
You should checkout the owners personal blog entry
|Stupid European Tricks. The .EU landrush fiasco. Europe gets its very own domain name hijacked! |
He is not very happy with [American] company "X"
Msg#: 3669 posted 8:18 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
|I think .eu has no credibility now |
I think Joe Public will be the judge of that ;)
Msg#: 3669 posted 9:07 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
Perhaps we EU citizens should give EUrid and the Commission a fair trial before we hang the lot of them.
This is the press release that the Commission put out. It mentions fake registrars and abusive registrations:
.eu, Europe’s Own Internet Domain:
Frequently Asked Questions [europa.eu.int]
Msg#: 3669 posted 11:04 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
Has anybody got their pages hosted on their .eu domain yet.
I have still not heard back from my hosting company regarding my already paid for .eu domains.
Msg#: 3669 posted 12:48 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
Hiya All, I'm from the uk and ive been buying .eu since friday, most of them have come through, although at the moment its a little slow, ive bought about 50. I might need some help with what to do with them, where might i post the url's for some ideas?
Msg#: 3669 posted 1:07 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
|Has anybody got their pages hosted on their .eu domain yet. |
The one .eu that per registered and got is now up and running, it's just one page with a photo. Not sure what I will do with it. Since Friday I've ordered a few more and they are now live I just need to put up my pages.
|I might need some help with what to do with them, where might i post the url's for some ideas? |
If you are thinking about doing that here you can't do that. It's against the TOS to post urls.
Msg#: 3669 posted 1:13 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
thats why i didnt post them, any ideas where i might?
Msg#: 3669 posted 2:33 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
ok, I have eight of the .eu domains for from ftse 500. I just spoke to 1 company, who initially said they werent interested, and I'm waiting for a call. They are worth £500 million..any ideas what the .eu could be sold for? lol
Msg#: 3669 posted 3:40 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
I'd park your best .eu domains, that's what I did. You can do it for free. When you do this you have the option of puting them up for sale. I'd do this and see what happeneds. You never know. Good luck.
Msg#: 3669 posted 3:55 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
yep, i saw a site which does this, comes up a lot in the searches. Would that be the best way to go?
Msg#: 3669 posted 6:35 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
It's a strange thing, even though my .eu comes up with me in the WHOIS, my registrar hasn't e-mailed to ay I got it, it still says 'Pending' in my control panel, and the 'Transfer Doamins' link just isn't working.
Any one else experienced this?
Msg#: 3669 posted 7:29 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
hey, you with those aussie guys? I bought about 15 thru them, they told me for hours they were confirmet then i bought them again thru a uk firm in 3o mins, on the registry in 40. Beware, maybe you havent got them
Msg#: 3669 posted 7:36 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
I am with the Australian guys ( didn't actually no they were from Australia until saw I had been billed in Australian Dollars). The Domain registrar comes up as being in Luxembourg though.
My name is actually on the WHOIS record, and looking on other domai registry sites confirms they are mine. I think I'll have to e-mail them and try and find out.
The domain I lost (the un hyphenated version) has now 'gone live' and is some kind of spammy site, so I guess I will have to try and bargain with them.
If I haven't got either domain, I ain't gonna be a happy bunny.
Msg#: 3669 posted 7:46 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
yep, i got most of the ones thru them ok, about 30, but the other lot had delays. if your name is on the registry then its yours i was informed. Ive chatted to them for the last few days both in lux and aus. They dont refund either!
Msg#: 3669 posted 7:50 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
I had to pay for both domains, even the one I didn't get. Will they refund for that one?
As long as I've got the one, I'll be happy.
Msg#: 3669 posted 7:57 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)
i think you get a credit with them, to buy another domain, however, id wait till the servers are working, they lied to me for 12 hours. If your name is on whois.eu the site is yours!
Msg#: 3669 posted 2:28 pm on Apr 12, 2006 (gmt 0)
Ah well...it's pretty obvious that Eurid are going to do nothing so what next?
Yep, pay the EU through the ADR process to dispute the allocation of the names one wanted so they get money from another source!
Is it no wonder that EU citizens view Brussels as a corrupt entity when this sort of mess occurs?
We've already filed our papers for the one domain name we really wanted, our company name, so we'll see what happens and just how this process works. Considering that it is an unusal trading name I would be most surprised if we do not win, however...!
I'm not too sure how many ADRs have been filed yet however when we did ours on Monday, two days ago, we were nearly #700. Of course that's assuming that the numbers have been allocated as received.
As an aside to all this we've been able to register some cracking "my niche trade widget" .eu's during the last few days in English.
What has really surprised me is the huge volume of German language .eu applications. Yes I do appreciate that it is the first most spoken language within Europe then again .de is the #2 after .com therefore maybe I should not be so surprised?
Msg#: 3669 posted 11:26 pm on Apr 20, 2006 (gmt 0)
ok we admit it we are official squatters but in saying that we have also been hitting the .coms at the same time and are shocked at what you guys have missed on the other side of the pond
we run multiple domains so we know what sells when you have a good domain name plus everything that goes with that.
moreover whats even more shocking was the fact we were able to get some of the biggest domain names in the world this may have happened if the said company has no eu office.
and under the land rush rules any domain bought after the 7th of april can be used for any purpose and sold on to ever is the highest bidder and although we are not interested in any more they are still available to this day
whether you think .eu DOMAINS are worthless or not any one with a decent .eu will if done the correct way will trap .com traffic which means some companies may have no choice but to pay well over the odds for a .eu domain which in turn will raise the .eu above the .com`s of this world as the european market will over take america and become a dominant world trade mark.
in other words the EU made a <mess> of the whole thing.
but we are not complaining as we got everything we wanted even after the land rush and we got a site up with the new .eu within 2 days....
[edited by: Webwork at 1:16 am (utc) on April 21, 2006]
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Msg#: 3669 posted 3:41 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
I've heard from a few sources that EUrid launched without an operational owner transfer option (TRADE). Perhaps they are working on it but there is the possibility that people might be stuck with their .eu despite wanting to sell it. However the legislation covering .eu is quite powerful and some squatters might be made an example of for to maintain the lie that EUrid is a competently run registry.
Msg#: 3669 posted 8:40 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
I hear what you guys are saying but its not like the .eu just appeared from no-where most of the forums including this one was giving out loads of info`s regaurding this issue before the .eu landrush.
eurid told everyone when they had to claim their own trade mark/brand domains well in advance, if these so-called well run companies cant be bothered protecting their brands then they deserve all they get guys.
the term squatters should also be used in a different way my company likes the term domain "investers" as in this game you think before you buy and what ever you buy its for the long term.
Msg#: 3669 posted 9:01 am on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
Perhaps you should pay close attention to the EU regulations regarding speculative and bad faith registrations. One aspect deals with whether a pattern of bad faith/speculative registrations by a registrant can be demonstrated. That could be lethal for any speculator or squatter.
|the term squatters should also be used in a different way my company likes the term domain "investers" as in this game you think before you buy and what ever you buy its for the long term. |
EUrid are a bunch of incompetent morons who should not have been given the contract. The Commission made a complete hames of the system which allowed it to be massively gamed. What happens next is anyone's guess. Could there be a mass clear out of speculators? Possibly but this might require competency from the Commission and EUrid - neither of which have demonstrated any detectable sentience in the domain business.
Or even nastier - what happens if there is a mass lock-in of domains registered via bogus registrars and then when renewal time comes up in 2007, no renewal of these domains and all the squatted domains go to Landrush 2?
Msg#: 3669 posted 12:41 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
EU commissioner Viviane Reding said this
|According to EU commissioner Viviane Reding, the .eu registry Eurid received 390,000 applications in the first 100 minutes after registration opened this morning. |
"Europe and its citizens can now project their own web identity, protected by EU rules…making .eu a powerful domain name on equal footing with .com,” she said in a statement.
Firms face a first-come-first-served policy, now that any person or firm with an address in the EU can apply, and the UK is making up for its sluggish uptake of names in the sunrise period. At the time of writing, UK applications accounted for more than 170,000 of the 700,000 applications made so far across Europe.
***"Firms [with trademarks or prior rights] have had about four months to get their applications in so they only have themselves to blame if they haven’t [been successful]," said Phil Turnbull of web hosting firm Hostway. ".eu has the potential to [be as] significant and authoritative an extension as.com."***
the last bit is the important part dont you think,
we are willing to test this in one of the main parkers soon...lol
Msg#: 3669 posted 12:52 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
It would seem to me that, as soon as you point a domain to a PPC page or parking page, then it automatically becomes a speculative/bad faith registration. Read the regulations rather than a mere press release. :) Do it with enough domains and a pattern of abusive registrations can be established.
|the last bit is the important part dont you think, |
we are willing to test this in one of the main parkers soon
Msg#: 3669 posted 3:55 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
hiya jm m8,
I talked to eurid today and asked about this very point.
1/ any domain name purchased afer the sunrise period/pre reg dates are open season to all
2/some domains were not pre-registered for brand protection if this is so tuff luck.
3/ check out what the say on itweek ..uk ( if they cant be bothered to register then you either send your legal eagles lots of dosh or cut your losses now)
4/ if your a registered company and this is your buissness and its registered for tax within europe your fully protected to use the domains which we are!
so it looks as if we are covered m8
let the games begin,,,,lol
Msg#: 3669 posted 10:06 pm on Apr 21, 2006 (gmt 0)
It seems that folks have gotten confused with the .eu domain requests.
For those who are confused the .eu so called Sunrise one started 7thDec.2005 at 11.00am then Sunrise two started at 11.00am 7thFeb and ran until 6thApril 2006.
Anybody wishing to request registration had five months to do this BEFORE the so called Landrush.
The Landrush period is for every man and his dog to either invest in or use for themselves. There is no point in crying over spilt milk if you miss out as millions are after the same thing, if you get lucky then good luck to you. Do not forget all url extensions have went through the same sour grape period.
Msg#: 3669 posted 2:59 am on Apr 22, 2006 (gmt 0)
The original educational impetus of this thread is well exhausted and new issues keep opening.
Time to move on.
Please start a new tnread if there are .EU related issues you wish to raise and discuss.
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