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Domain parking pay per click (low) revenue shock
Just how small is a domain ower's piece of the PPC pie?
hermes




msg:699929
 9:44 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have a fantastic domain name with type-in traffic. I have managed to get my keyword for this domain authorised by Sedo. This keyword is hot - its adwords bid price is in the $25 - $40 dollar range. It has hundreds of advertisers vying for it on google search. So, I parked my domain and waited for a click. I got one and Sedo paid out just 0.10 Euros for this click. I am shocked! Shocked! Appalled.

 

Webwork




msg:699930
 10:41 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

That's the beauty of domain names: If you aren't happy with the revenue or revenue share you just repoint the domain's DNS.

Test, test, test. Just like AdSense and SEO.

hermes




msg:699931
 10:57 pm on Mar 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Maybe it would help if peeps could let me know what kind of click values they are getting. Maybe i have unrealistic expectations - but surely 0.10 euros is a bit low for such a choice keyword.

Webwork




msg:699932
 12:12 am on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

If the formulas for a payout were as simple as "get click, get max pay" their system would be broken from the start.

Payout variables may/should include location of IP address of the click, actual bids for domain parking (versus Adwords bidding), whether bidders are able to target specific "high filter power" domains versus run of the mill domains (run of the mill domain parking clicks would likely pay far less than domain parking clicks that could be targeted to specific quality domains), and a plethora of other variables.

Did you run the issue past Sedo?

What did their employees say?

I've seen some nice click payouts, however I don't use Sedo, so I can't speak to their limits. I believe I've read about higher 1-click payouts. What I've been reading is that there is a level of dissatisfaction in the domain community with a fixed payout formula that Sedo "reportedlY" applies. Don't know if it's true - or has been true - that they paid a fixed max amount (.10) but I believe I also recently read that Sedo may be addressing this issue.

High PPC clicks don't come by the minute unless you happen to own Mortgage.tld, CreditCard.tld, Loan.tld or the like. I'm certain that even in those cases the clicks are filtered cour variables such as country of origin, IP address . . . and the type of car you drive. :)

[edited by: Webwork at 12:17 am (utc) on Mar. 14, 2006]

nativenewyorker




msg:699933
 12:17 am on Mar 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Despite the fact that you had a click, you are assuming that
1) your visitor clicked on ad #1
and
2) that their click was for your keyword. It is possible that they entered their own term in the search box and clicked on one of those results.

Sedo's reputation is for bringing in big money sales, not PPC. I agree with Webwork that you should try out different parking services and see which works best for your domain. Some categories do well with one parking service, while other categories will do very poorly with the same provider.

monek




msg:699934
 11:07 am on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've done a lot of testing with different ppc providers and Sedo has worked pretty well for me. Among the things I've learned though is that Overture and Adsense bid prices aren't reliable indicators of what kind of ppc you'll get at a parking company. The only way to know is to test. Its more work but if it were so easy we'd all be millionaires by now. Who knows probably a few people in this forum already are ; )

hermes




msg:699935
 2:43 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

"fixed payout formula that Sedo "reportedlY" applies"

Maybe Sedo has a fixed payout formula now. Does anyone know anything about this?

Webwork




msg:699936
 2:48 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hermes - please ask Sedo and report back what they authoritatively say on the subject.

My comment about fixed payment is simply gleaned from statements made in other forums I participate in or monitor routinely.

Please - ask Sedo, so we can put this to rest.

My advice: Ask very specific questions and ask follow-up questions if the answers "waffle".

Then let us know what you learn.

Thanks.

drshields




msg:699937
 7:52 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hermes- be careful with sedo.

I had a couple of sites 'high paying keyword domains' that Sedo eventually shut down, not because they suspected 'click fraud' - which it wasn't at all - they cancelled my account because not enough of the traffic was 'converting' for advertisers.

hermes




msg:699938
 8:07 pm on Mar 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I will get onto sedo. I am trying to get into Traffic Valet now but have not heard anything back. Which is bit worrying cause been a fair few days since i applied now.

I have heard about peeps having their sedo accounts shut cause not converting enough for advertisers. This perplexes me cause if google is happy - sedo should be happy. Presumably sedo gets the conversion info off google - google of course feeding sedo with ads. With adsense they have smart pricing to take into account non-converting - if u r not converting so well as an adsense user u are NOT thrown out of the program but just given less per click. Which i guess is fair enough. I dont know why sedo dont have the same kind of thing.

SedoCoUk




msg:699939
 9:24 am on Mar 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi there,
Just came across this today. We don't have fixed payments and the amount we pay per click depends on a lot of things, including:
- the placement of the ad on the page
- where the traffic comes from
- if the visitors used the websearch or related links function to search something other than the keyword
- the keyword used

The overture tool is a good guideline for click prices, but it is, only a guideline. Also, as Sedo's advertising provider is not currently Overture, the results are not the same.

[edited by: Webwork at 1:52 pm (utc) on Mar. 22, 2006]
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