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Type-in domains: How to find or to pick them? Where to start?
What data is available about type-in domains in general? .Com>.Net % etc
digicam




msg:687846
 11:17 pm on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi, I want to register some domains to get typein traffic.

Problem is 99% of .com has gone - everything I think of that is half decent.

How do typeins vary with .net .biz ect - is there any data available?

cheers

 

jtara




msg:687847
 8:42 am on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

There are .net and .biz typeins?

LeChuck




msg:687848
 1:52 pm on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

To find typeins (.com) you have to try thinking like the people who use them. Who are they? What do they want? What will they write in their URL field when they want it? How many are likely to want it?

Or you could just do it automatically.

Webwork




msg:687849
 4:45 pm on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

The numbers drop off precipitously when moving from .com to .biz or .info, though that "fact" may slowly reverse itself with time. That is why you will pay a tiny fraction for a keyword .biz of what you would pay for a .com. Today's .biz buyers might be the viewed as domain geniuses . . . in 2018.

Regardind "data" - allow me to suggest that those with the very best data are not about to share it. That's the way it has always been with domain related data. The better the quality data the more valuable, so it is not freely available. Instead, such data has been used during the past 5 years to enable certain individuals/companies to make very intelligent buying decisions.

However, a large chunk of what they know you can intuit OR you can start to build your own dataset by acquiring some domains and watching what happens.

There are still bargains in the aftermarket if you are a consumer of PPC advertising.

Basically, you can buy a clickstream annuity for a discounted price of approximately 25-35% of the present cost of clicks going forward.

Check for frequency of search phrases related to your industry and register them if the numbers are significant. If people search "long green widgets" often enough it would make sense to register it, especially if long green widget PPC runs at .25/click.

It's not that hard to figure this out. Push back from the computer keyboard and think: Think about how things work. Think about the future. Think about how you search.

The nicest thing about thinking for yourself on issues like this is that you might discover something that no one else has (or only a few people have). Then, you can stake a significant claim before the rest of the world catches on.

jtara




msg:687850
 5:54 pm on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

To find typeins (.com) you have to try thinking like the people who use them.

Step 1: bang your head against a wall.

Step 2: bang your head against a wall HARD.

Step 3: Obtain a large hammer...

LeChuck




msg:687851
 7:09 pm on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Jtara: true, but I was trying to be polite... :)

But: Never underestimate the SEO value of the domains for later development. The good ones are worth holding on to indefinitely and maybe developing them in 2020.

If you think good .coms are rare now, how rare will they in a couple of decades?

voltrader




msg:687852
 7:25 pm on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

- open Excel
- on a new line, type in the term for which you want to find a typo
- lift hands off keyboard
- repeat 100 times or more
- sort by alpha
- highest frequency typo will be first listing

Good Luck

nonni




msg:687853
 10:44 pm on Jan 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

Read this thread an hour ago. Was just typing a memo and my left hand shifted. I tried to type "for" but "got" appeared.

There is probably some quantitative data somewhere that would let you predict the most common ways to mistype things if you are really keen on typo-squatting. I personally don't think it will bring that much traffic, but here are some thoughts on the issue:

Spelling Mutations
1)Deleted double letter
2)Deleted random letter
3)Added double letter
4)Added random letter
5)Substitution based on keyboard position (letters that are nearer to each other more likely to be mistyped).
6)Phonetic substitution - c/k/s, ee vs ea (reed,read) etc
7)ie vs ei substitution
8)dyslexic substitution - b/d, etc

digicam




msg:687854
 7:05 pm on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi, I have searched a heck of a lot of two and even three keyword names and I conclude there is little left in the .com field.

Is it better to hyphenate to get the .coms which will probably still be available

Or is it better to go after the .us which also seems to be available in reasonable numbers?

cheers.

jtara




msg:687855
 7:26 pm on Jan 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Do you think people are likely to type-in hyphenated names?

Whether or not .us will take off is anybody's guess. But I think you'd be better-off with the .us's than with the hyphens.

For speculation (to sell later) you might want the hyphens. Just don't expect type-in traffic.

OTOH, the Internet culture is always changing. Perhaps hyphenated domain names will be considered "cool", or at least the norm, in the future. So, people will get used to them, and you will start getting type-in traffic.

Right now, if somebody is thinking of two or three keywords, they're not going to put in the hyphens, because it isn't the norm.

It's a good way, though, to get a meaningful domain name for your website, if you are not looking for typein traffic.

I would think right now you need to buy typein names from an existing owner. You have to do your homework, and find ones that are undervalued by the owner. Bascially, you will probably have to find type-in names that are not owned by domain professionals.

dataguy




msg:687856
 5:57 am on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

#1 Find a popular domain and make a list of miss spelled names by reversing letters, replacing phonetically similar letters, double letters, etc.

#2 Search Google for each miss spelled word, finding the popularity of that word.

#3 Use the Overture keyword suggestion tool to find if the miss spelled words have been commonly used in search phrases.

#4 Divide the Overture number by the Google number, and find the popularity of the miss spelled word versus the competitiveness of the word.

#5 Take this number and multiply it times the estimated traffic received on the original properly spelled domain calculated from the web sites Alexa ranking, and you can even make a pretty good guess as to how much traffic the miss spelled name would generate.

#6 Finally, add a '.com' on to the end and the domain and check for availability and presto, you have a list of miss spelled domains complete with a ranking of how well they might do.

This technique has netted me dozens of great names over the years, though I am personally trying to stay away from the domain name game. It's just too addicting I guess.

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