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is it worth buying all your sites .extensions
example: .com, .net, .biz etc.
stinky

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Msg#: 3287 posted 11:47 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

Do you buy all the .extensions for your domain example: .com, .net, .org, .biz, .info etc.?
If you are to buy other .extensions, which ones are the most popular after .com?

Does anybody have any experience where a competitor buys your domain .net, .org or other .thing and puts a site up? I noticed somebody purchased my domain .something and put up some strange site with links pointing to other businesses they had. Anybody have an idea of what the point of that would be?

 

call4ei

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Msg#: 3287 posted 4:41 pm on Nov 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

for us it depends on the domain. I usually advise people to have an easy to remember spelling. When there is a to/2 in it I recommend buying both versions.

If they are a non-profit I tend to advise to buy the .org and .com ...if the .com is gone, I don't like to buy the .org and the other way around.

This is to avoid confusion later with email etc. basically I try to take the .org and .com for non-profits and .com for private parties. Mainly because .com is what is most remembered by the consumer...

J

nsqlg

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Msg#: 3287 posted 6:06 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

I like buy all traditional domains available (regional / .com / .net / .org) before launch the site.

IMHO dont mind with the secondary extensions (like .info, .biz, .tv, .blahblah...)

[edited by: nsqlg at 6:16 pm (utc) on Dec. 2, 2005]

martinibuster

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Msg#: 3287 posted 6:09 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

If it's a branding issue, yeah.

If it's a good niche keyword phrase domain name and I want to lock out competitors, yeah.

Sometimes they're not as important to me and I don't.

Frequent

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Msg#: 3287 posted 6:16 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Again, it depends on the site...but generally I buy .com and .net.

1) I figure that if the site really takes off I'll have enough money to bribe/battle with a squatter if necessary.

2) And if someone actually does develop a site at the .org, .tv, or .whatever I will inevitably benefit from the traffic since everyone still naturally tries .com or .net first.

3) I don't want to encourage "them" to keep creating new extensions just to make people spend more money to cover their bases.

Freq---

LeChuck

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Msg#: 3287 posted 6:55 pm on Dec 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

I usually get the .com and if it's a gem of a domain, which is rare nowadays but it still happens, I'll get the .org and the .net too. I never bother with .biz, .info etc, they don't seem very professional and are IMHO unbrandable (.info is spammer/MFA heaven and .biz is for ebay stores run out of some guy's basement... :)

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 3287 posted 4:20 am on Dec 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

.info is spammer/MFA heaven and .biz is for ebay stores run out of some guy's basement...

Sometimes if you're a heavily branded domain, though, you want those to keep tacky competitors from using them. For a distinctive brand in a competitive area, I usually prod a well-branded client, if they can afford it, to get .com, .net, and maybe .info, .biz, and .us.

The problem, though, is knowing where to stop on other variants. Eg, suppose the client is widgetworld.com. I usually suggest they also get the hyphenated versions, widget-world.com and widget-world.net. I'll usually stop with those two, but I'm curious about what others think.

The foreign variants can also be important, at least for some clients that might ultimately go international, or not want others to go international with the same name.

Additionally, there are plural variants. ;) Eg, right now, I have several clients that are in the form brandnamewidget.com, but who don't own brandnamewidgets.com and wish they did. I suggest you pounce on single and plural variants if they apply. Lots of chance for confusion on these. Probably you should just stop on the .com and .net versions of these... and maybe the same for the hyphenates.

call4ei

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Msg#: 3287 posted 2:11 am on Dec 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

It seems to me they like my .something and just took an extension to get that name... sometimes people with no clue are trying to get their nitch on the internet...

J

cerebrum

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Msg#: 3287 posted 11:25 am on Dec 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Its wise to buy all TLDs like com net org biz and info. When I buy a domain, I usually buy all the TLDs. If you leave them, some copycat will keep someother site in another TLD and it will cause some confusion among the visitors. I also advise all other to register all TLDs.

Leva

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Msg#: 3287 posted 2:43 pm on Dec 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree -- buy 'em all.

I was running a .org site with a busy forum. When I bought the domain, the .com and .net were already bought -- the .com was somebody's personal page, the .net was an ISP. Figured no problem and no confusion there.

Weeeeellll ... the ISP went under and the .net domain was bought by a porn operator. AND Google would rank the porn operator above my domain when people entered keywords that they thought would lead them to my site. I think the porn operator had some meta tags that were put in deliberately to cause that. Led to more than a little confusion and embarassment, particularly when it was, say, coworkers who visited "my" site and found obnoxious nudies.

Leva

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3287 posted 6:59 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

In a couple of cases I have grabbed .net and .org, but I don't bother with .info and .biz and that other stuff.

I have felt more need to register the .com version of plurals, alternate (e.g. British) spellings, hypenated versions, etc. Even foreign language translations of my site name in one instance. If you start multiplying all that out by the number of possible suffixes, it can become ridiculous.

stu2

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Msg#: 3287 posted 12:34 am on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

It gets to be quite a handful :( Do you really register all these for each domain?

widgetwidget.com
widgetwidgets.com
widget-widget.com
widget-widgets.com
widgetwidget.net
widgetwidgets.net
widget-widget.net
widget-widgets.net
widgetwidget.org
widgetwidgets.org
widget-widget.org
widget-widgets.org

plus whatever else takes your fancy :)

oddsod

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Msg#: 3287 posted 6:05 pm on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

I bought a domain for a new UK business recently. Because of the amount of investment in the business I thought it prudent to buy various competitive domains and misspellings. Without going overboard I ended up with in excess of one hundred .com, .net, .org, and .co.uk domains. I didn't bother with other TLDs.

I can't imagine how much of domain buying/tracking work big companies like Microsoft must put in.

twist

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Msg#: 3287 posted 7:42 pm on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

I thought I was pretty safe buying the .com, .net, .org, .info, .biz

and just as others have pointed out, I did a search the other day and found mydomain.com as my-domain.com

twist

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Msg#: 3287 posted 8:14 pm on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

THIS THREAD HAS INSPIRED ME!

I just went and bought my-domain.net and my-domain.org, that'll teach those ******** for taking my-domain.com

herb

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Msg#: 3287 posted 8:57 pm on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ok, now that you have "com, net and org" what do you do with the two you aren't using. I currently have them parked with the registrar.

Bluesplinter

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Msg#: 3287 posted 11:46 pm on Dec 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

what do you do with the two you aren't using

301 'em to the .com version. Check [webmasterworld.org ]... even Brett does it that way :)

awall19

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Msg#: 3287 posted 9:23 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am certain my view here is a bit shortsighted on many levels, but controversy is typically surrounded in links. Sometimes leaving other versions available gives others an excuse to talk about you when a copy cat comes along.

stu2

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Msg#: 3287 posted 11:25 am on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I bought a domain for a new UK business recently. Because of the amount of investment in the business I thought it prudent to buy various competitive domains and misspellings. Without going overboard I ended up with in excess of one hundred .com, .net, .org, and .co.uk domains. I didn't bother with other TLDs

A true professional :) I can understand that that investment is a pittance when compared to the total investment. Well worth the investment. (I mean it, no intended sarcasm)

dmoz24

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Msg#: 3287 posted 5:25 pm on Dec 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I would recommend

1) .com , .net, .org, .info, .biz, .us (if you are a us citizen)

2) If you target UK then .org.uk, .co.uk

3) If your have some other country traffic then major 2 variations of your country domain extension.

A site costs a lot to build and this is only peanuts, and if you cant protect your brand maybe someone will protect yours and also keep your traffic.

sdani

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Msg#: 3287 posted 4:26 pm on Jan 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

ok.. now based on these suggestions - if someone has bought just even 6-7 domains (.com, net & org) or two common misspellings - what to do with those names?

Options:
1. Keep them parked at the registrar like GoDaddy and let them make money by showing ads on your parked domains.
2. forward them all to your main domain - not sure how search engines will treat that (duplicate).
3. create a single page site for each one of those and then add a link to your main site - again - for a new site - its a red flag for SEs that too many of your own domains are pointing back to you.. and then probability is that they all will be hosted at same IP, else spend more money for those IPs.

So.. what should be done with those Domains that you buy to protect your main domain?

sdani

twist

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Msg#: 3287 posted 8:30 pm on Jan 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

2. forward them all to your main domain

Thats what I do. I would hope google wouldn't penalize for that considering,

google.net/info/biz/us/tv redirect to google.com

not to mention,

gooogle.com, goooogle.com, goooogle.com, googel.com also redirect

oh, and lets not forget gewgle.com (sounds gross)

sdani

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Msg#: 3287 posted 8:55 pm on Jan 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

forward them to main domain but using what? If I use the registrar's Web Forward systems, I don't think that uses 301 redirect.

twist

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Msg#: 3287 posted 1:50 am on Jan 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

forward them to main domain but using what? If I use the registrar's Web Forward systems, I don't think that uses 301 redirect.

Good question. I use godaddy forwarding, anybody know exactly how they do it?

topsites



 
Msg#: 3287 posted 2:29 am on Jan 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I did it once as an experiment, purchased the .org and .net versions for my .com...
I don't really understand 301's, I did it via aliasing but whatever, after a year I did not renew the two because according to statistics, the extra traffic gained was hardly worth the 12 dollars I paid for the two (5.95 / year / domain). I think I might have gained 4 or 5 hundred clicks, nevermind it's not the best traffic: At least half the time it was one of my regulars 'checking it out,' and whether it turns up or not doesn't mean squat at this point. The other half it's someone forgot my domain name... It might be nice to re-dire them proper but at the same rate that may leave them under the impression the domain's true name is not .com ... Either way, both of these scenarios involve visitors that would've (or did) visit the .com anyhow. There are a few I gained via other methods, but the numbers here were truly abysmal. And, the extra traffic gained was suspiciously enough, always a fairly exact (and small) percentage of actual traffic, throughout the year the numbers were consistent with peaks and blows, the .net / .org version stayed way down there also peaking / blowing (lol, sorry).
In the end I took a look at some the big guys:
google is evidently highly concerned, every single one of their variants redires to the .com.
But Yahoo obviously isn't worried, .net turns up nothing and if anyone should be worried, me thinks the big guys need to, but while some do, some don't.

My conclusion in this matter is you do what you feel like, but whether the money is spent in other ways or not at all, either way it's all the same.

oddsod

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Msg#: 3287 posted 10:46 am on Jan 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I beg to differ on Yahoo.net [yahoo.net].

Contrary to what you seem to believe Yahoo is obviously interested in capturing the traffic going to their .net domain. Maybe somebody should drop them a note suggesting they do a 301 for their non-www URL.

topsites, it's not always what it earns.... sometimes it makes sense to buy a domain to prevent your competitors getting their grubby hands on it.

dmoz24

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Msg#: 3287 posted 8:31 pm on Jan 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would recommend making niche related sites on that to capture searches for yourdomain keyword at least 1st page.

No spam legit 10 page sites

webjourneyman

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Msg#: 3287 posted 8:34 pm on Jan 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would argue that different endings are waste of money except in the case of common spelling errors. If someone types in the url by hand chances are the same will begin with .com. Otherwise they are clicking on urlīs in either serps or from another page, in that case it does not matter what the domain name is, they wonīt even try to memorize it, they will bookmark it if its any good.
So unless your domain name is generic so that a person looking for widget will type in widget.com when searching for the widget product or if you have a huge marketing budget and plan to market the site verbally and/or in print other domain endings than .com do not matter. I think themostincrediblewidget.com is a better domain name than widget.net/org/info/etc.

twist

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Msg#: 3287 posted 11:30 pm on Jan 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

The problem is when you promote your website by name. Family and friends, print ads, and so on. I hear about lots of websites by word of mouth. Lets say your website is "example.com". So you start getting the name "example" well known. Someones talking to their friend and tells them to check out this great website they found called "example". They go home and type "example" into google. First result, "example.info" which just happens to sell the same product your website is selling.

Bidera

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Msg#: 3287 posted 12:43 pm on Jan 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Correct usage of those extra domains would be to 301 them to your main domain. As far as I understand that doesn't incur any penalties from SEs.

Personally, I feel as long as you have the main widget.com name which comes up first when searching for widget , you don't have to go overboard by buying widget.biz, widget.info, widget.tv etc etc. Perhaps buy widget.org and widget.net.

Correct me if I am wrong, but 99percent of type in names are ended by .com (by browser default or by typee).

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