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msg:698445
 9:23 am on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello,

I have been watching the Webmaster World Forums for some time but have only just stumbled across this forum. This forum probably best correlates to my interest so I hope to be able to make a contribution in future.

In the meantime, I would be grateful for some help. I am looking for some help in finding automated systems to find, register and manage expired domains.

Over the last few years we have acquired many hundreds of domains which we currently manage by a combination of manual and custom built automated systems.

We recently acquired another company which has a lot more domains and our current approach is unable to cope with the volume. These domains are typically expired domains with residual traffic or generic domains with type in traffic. The domains are not for sale, we are holding on to them for our own use. However in the meantime we have been generating good income from ‘parking’ these domains prior to their eventual end use and we have decided to refocus the company that we have acquired to solely focus on building up a network of these domains.

We now need to totally automate our processes - particularly the management of the domain after they are acquired. Specifically we want to be able to automate the creation of a micro site for each domain with our own content as well as advertising/PPC/affiliate content.

Do such systems exist of the shelf or will we need to create our own? Even if they do exist would we be better off developing a system completely tailored to us?

Lots of questions I know so thanks in advance for you time

 

Webwork




msg:698446
 2:06 pm on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Automated system? Anything can be handcrafted for a fee.

Automatic "content"? Like ripping other sites, even "good faith" ripping of Wikis may only go so far. Think of the SE slaughter of affiliate sites that use the same datafeeds.

If you intend to produce anything original and of value then you have your work cut out for you if you plan to scale to the 1000s.

If you plan to "automate" the process - ripping, rss feeds, etc. - I'm not sure how many miles you will get from the model.

It's my impression that most attempts to automate the creation of index material sooner or later run afoul of the search engine's efforts to sweep away detritus.

Live_Lead




msg:698447
 2:33 pm on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Webwork,

Thanks for the quick response.

I don't think I have explained myself very well!

I didn't mean content – as I stated we already have our own content and are not in the least bit interested in, as you put it, “ripping” other content. Also we build our sites for users not search engines and consequently in this instance are wholly unreliant on SE traffic.

I meant the processes of registering, managing, renewing, pointing and creating microsites for thousands of domains and putting (our) content as well as advertising onto them.

All the research we have done suggests that creating such a system would entail a considerable investment on our part and that is something that we are well prepared to do.

We have also been unable to find any off the shelf systems which come close to doing this. However it seemed reasonable to ask whether there were existing systems which forum members were aware of (I imagine some will be managing a considerable number of domains?) before commissioning such a project.

The question was a bit of a long shot and your response further affirms that this is something we will most likely be commissioning ourselves.

Thanks again for a timely response.

Webwork




msg:698448
 3:39 pm on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

registering: unless you fear search engine probing just use one domain register with a good management interface. Use domain privacy or domain proxy if you're concerned about SEs and WhoIs probing, etc.

managing: ditto the above, unless "managing" means something more.

renewing: same as above, simply use their auto-renew function. Never had one fail, so long as you set them correctly to renew. ;)

pointing: how often do you plan to move them? Again, a decent registrar will have a bulk DNS function built into their interface

creating: Not sure what you mean.

I use a registrar with a very good interface, one with good bulk management tools.

I use an Access database to track details.

If you are looking to auto configure server virtuals I'm certain you can get someone to code that in relatively short order, then just load up your content. I had a sysadmin code a program for creating virtuals on an IIS server.

Can't help you on automating loading up content - except to suggest that it sounds like something that would be driven off of a limited number of templates and a database.

Live_Lead




msg:698449
 4:58 pm on Oct 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for that Webwork.

We've been using some bulk tools that registrars provide but even with these its just not enough. I think our situation is slightly unusaul in that we probably need most of the functioality thst an isp or registrar needs just to run all our domains. Throw in some reporting requirements and content management and we looking at a fairly major system.

I now certain we will build our own, we have allready completed a technical specification - I guess I was hoping there might be a quick solution!

To paraphrase you comment above anything worthwhile has to be worked at!

MonikerMaurie




msg:698450
 9:09 pm on Nov 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

<snip><edit>You might consider looking for a domain registrar that offers a domain management</edit> interface that allows you to set up different categories for your domains, which is able to display up to 5000 names on a single web page, and which allows you to make bulk changes to selected domains.

Some registrars offer that level of domain managment.

[edited by: Webwork at 2:51 pm (utc) on Nov. 8, 2005]
[edit reason] Please keep the advice general. [/edit]

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