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list of recently expired domains
barbarella




msg:685144
 9:45 am on May 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

where can i find a list of recently expired domains fast? and does anybody know anything about .eec and .eu registrations?

 

Woz




msg:685145
 11:02 am on May 16, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hi Barbarella, welcome to WebmasterWorld

You will find a searchable database of expired domains at whois.net [whois.net]. You can search by keyword but you cannot search by date unfortunately.

As to .eec and .eu, I'll have to leave that up to our European experts.

Onya
Woz

Hunter




msg:685146
 3:43 am on May 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

Onya,

Please don't get me wrong here,I have enjoyed your previous posts a lot, but I've gotta say, I don't have much faith in the Whois.net claim that these are "dropped" or "expired domains". Many, if not all of the domains that they list there have simply never been registered and therefore remain available. It's just a marketing ploy to get you more excited about the names they are presenting. If you find one you like, great, but I seriously doubt what they are claiming (dropped or expired)is true.

barbarella




msg:685147
 8:07 am on May 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

thank you Onya and Hunter
i tried whois.net with the domain of one of my clients which is due to expire and it didn't appear in the list. any other hints?

thanx

seoptimizer2001




msg:685148
 2:20 pm on May 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

I recently saw a program that let you input key words you wanted in your domain name and it would query whois.net and then check with some of the search engines to see if and where the pages ranked and what kind of link popularity they held. Do you think this program would be useful? If so how much would you pay for it? They are charging like $150, which I thought was kind of steep and that I could develop a similar product for far less. Would people buy this?

minnapple




msg:685149
 10:29 pm on May 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

seoptimizer2001

Sticky mail me the url of that company.
$150.00 is a bargain, considering the time that can be spent in domain mining.

Thanks
Minnapple

Hunter




msg:685150
 11:19 pm on May 17, 2001 (gmt 0)

This sounds like the program you are referring to Don't worry I am not an affiliate [chami.com]
I've gotten a lot of use out of it myself.

Zook




msg:685151
 8:00 pm on May 18, 2001 (gmt 0)

I'm running a weekly analysis of the root zone files for com/net/org/edu. As part of the process I compare the current list of domains to the previous week and can extract a list both of new registrarions and expired domains. This week (5/16/2001) there were about 180,000 com/net/org expired domains.

One caveat, although most of domains are expired they may not all be. Registrars can remove a domain from the root zone file but it will not show up as available. However spot checking suggest that about 90 - 95 percent of these domains are available.

If anyone is interested or wants more info let me know.

Matt

Brett_Tabke




msg:685152
 12:02 am on May 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

btw: Onya, is equiv to l8tr in Aus where Woz is at.

Zook, barbarella welcome to the board.

Zook, a zone file raider!? I was just asking who had a static ip handy with that kind of storage and bandwidth. So can I pick your brain about them for a minute? How big are they? Is it tough to get approved to dl them? (I know the requirements, but have not done so yet). I guess I could setup a proxy on one of the boxes and redirect them as a dl'd them so I didn't have to have the space.

Thanks for all the work you've done zook. Your site has been a wealth of info:
[socrates.berkeley.edu...]

Anything else?

That whois.net really is from expired domains - they just are slow in updating it.

Zook




msg:685153
 2:06 am on May 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the welcome Brett.

hmmmm....raider? I prefer the term researcher. ;)

These files are big. The com one is 381 MB zipped and expands out to something like 3.5 GB. The net one is only about 60 MB zipped. Still hard disks are cheap and I'm doing all this on my laptop. The only problem dealing with such large files is slow but I set the programs running overnight.

The procedure was straightforward to get access to dl the files. There didn't seem to be a great deal of hassle but that could have changed. I got set up about ten months ago.

Glad you like the site. I think that I list most of the data that I have. The FAQ has the details.

Hunter




msg:685154
 8:39 pm on May 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

Doh!...Sorry Woz, about the name mix-up and the Whois.net slander. It just seems like every time I have used Whois.net, I find many lame domains, especially at the beginning of the lists that I think "how could this possibly be expired, who in their right mind would have registered this thing?"...lol. I do believe "never before registered names" are at least mixed in the lists though. DaytradingBootCamp.net is an example of this because I have watched it ever since the .com version was registered.

Woz




msg:685155
 1:06 am on May 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

No worries Hunter. I did sulk for a little while but I am getting over it now... <grin>

>who in their right mind would have registered this thing?"...

I know what you mean. But remember, there are a lot of "lame brains" out there. I used to wonder myself about whether all the names were expired or just plants. But with some of the names I have seen I have had to come to the conclusion that they must be expired names as no-one in there right mind would plant such rubbish in the database hoping it would sell.

Some of them are so ridiculous you have to laugh. And some of them are also obvious scams on known brand names and established websites registered by squatters in the hope of making a fast buck.

But then there are also some gems in there. Two sites I have recently put together came from the whois.net deleted domains database.

If I may misquote Zig Ziglar, "When you go digging for gold, you have to move a lot of dirt to find the gold. Just remember though that you are looking for gold, not dirt."

Onya (salutation)
Woz (name)

uksitesubmit




msg:685156
 6:58 pm on May 21, 2001 (gmt 0)

For info on .eu domains you could try...
[doteu-partner.com...]

Xoc




msg:685157
 11:27 pm on Jun 2, 2001 (gmt 0)

Wow, Zook, nice site. Good info.

Zook




msg:685158
 4:20 pm on Jun 6, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks.....

Vacor




msg:685159
 6:29 pm on Jun 9, 2001 (gmt 0)

I had someone use my biz name and grab the .com. Anyway, I don't want to miss an opportunity to grab it if there is a lapse. Is there anyway to get the scoop on that.??

kcl




msg:685160
 7:16 am on Jun 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

Vacor, welcome.
I am new here also. I haven't found any easy way to track and make sure you get a name if it expires. There is a new service, www.snapnames.com, that claims it can help. It is new, so, I don't know if it works. I still think there is no substitution for your personal tracking and attempting to register it yourself. I have read that domains are released at 6:30 a.m. each day so you have to try to register your name early each day after it expires. There are other strings that give you ideas on how long after a name expires it becomes available. Overall, though I don't think anyone has a great handle on this.

minnapple




msg:685161
 3:56 am on Jun 12, 2001 (gmt 0)

You will see a change in the whois data for a domain name 5-7 days before a domains release. Brett wrote about this change in an earlier post.

When it is down to the wire you need to try to PURCHASE the domain rather than SEARCH FOR AVAILABILITY to really know if it has become available.

Many domain name sellers are using two databases, an older one for general searches and a newer one that they access during a purchase.

Found this out the hard way. :(

shedemon




msg:685162
 12:48 pm on Jun 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

Maybe i'm wrong, but it seems to me that www.Corenic.org has the most up to date database. I saw many domain names free on their base, while the other databases never showed the names were free- only showing 2 days later that the name was purchased- by me :)!

shedemon




msg:685163
 1:21 pm on Jun 24, 2001 (gmt 0)

As for the .eu - it was all the hype about 6 months ago, but we haven't heard any news about it here in Europe since then. And trust me, i've been keeping my eyes and ears open. I don't think they'll be available before the end of the year, and even then they probably won't very popular, or else people wouldn't have stopped talking about them. Even Icann's site hasn't discussed it more than once or twice since last year.

Too bad, I was hoping it would be a big success...

jilla




msg:685164
 11:23 am on Jun 28, 2001 (gmt 0)

Can anyone comment on this? I saw a list of yahoo
listed expired domains that were available for registration and they were listed in the yahoo directory in April and May. Anyway, I registered 2 the 2nd week of June and one of them I did have time to create an index page so the site wouldn't be a 404. On June 15th I saw I was getting a few hits from yahoo searches. Then on June 16th I noticed that the 2 domains I registered plus a few others I was watching were all dropped out of the yahoo directory.

Does anyone know how often yahoo will delete the dead links from their database? I know for sure that a few sites were listed there at least 2 months without any hosts so it can't be a monthly purge. Was this a summer cleanup and I just had bad luck?

shedemon




msg:685165
 10:38 am on Jun 30, 2001 (gmt 0)

Talking about .EU's, I just received this information at work:

CREATING THE .EU DOMAIN - WORKSHOP TO LAUNCH NEW BODY FOR EUROPEAN INTERNET COMMUNITY

An invitation to the Members of the European Internet Community

[caneu.be...]

satanclaus




msg:685166
 2:09 pm on Aug 22, 2001 (gmt 0)

deleteddomains.com

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