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UK domain drop catching
Which are the good ones
Elmo




msg:691935
 2:22 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have had a program written that lets me input a big list of words, it then adds .co.uk to each word and checks the whois for the following:

1. If each is registered
2. When they were registered
3. When they are due to be renewed
4. If they are suspended/detagged

This has produced some great finds to register and some even better ones to try and catch when they drop.

My question is what are the leading drop catchers in the UK (i.e. which ones actually work)

The other option would be to try and catch them myself. Does anyone have any information on how to do this, what is allowed, what you can get away with (in particular, automated scripts)

 

gpmgroup




msg:691936
 5:27 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nominet Members I believe get to see the drop list a few minutes before the public, so you will only catch ones members don't want unless you sign up with Nominet too.

Elmo




msg:691937
 5:49 pm on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks gpmgroup

I was thinking I would have to apply for a TAG

Do you, or anyone else, know the pattern of domain drops,last lime I checked at the end of last year there was about a 93 day gap between Renewal Date and when a domain dropped, is this still the same and is there a certain time of day it happens.

Any other info would be appreciated

bennyandthejets




msg:691938
 11:28 pm on Mar 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi Elmo
regarding the .co.uk go to Nominets site
[nic.uk...]

this gives all the details you need plus a list of members you could contact, to either change Tags or reserve the .co.uk's you require, some registras have a reserve or catch program to purchase the detagged names, for which we dont have the info to hand , but will reply if it turns up. Hope that helps

Bennyandthejets

AcornDomains




msg:691939
 9:45 pm on Apr 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nominet Members I believe get to see the drop list a few minutes before the public, so you will only catch ones members don't want unless you sign up with Nominet too.

The UK whois system updates every 5 minutes. Nominet TAG holders are permitted to communicate with their Automaton for queries and registration attempts at any time but are limited to 1,000 requests per rolling 24 hours. If you go beyond this you get blocked for 24 hours.

By becoming a Member you get cheaper name registration fees but you need a TAG and Membership to get the best from it. Then all you need is a system to beat every other TAG holder to the best names :-), that is the really tricky part!

petestorey




msg:691940
 4:26 pm on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

You can take a look at namewarden.com which we've used to get a couple of names. Seems to work well.
Pete

py9jmas




msg:691941
 5:27 pm on May 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have had a program written that lets me input a big list of words, it then adds .co.uk to each word and checks the whois for the following:

This is explicitly against Nominet's TOS.
[nic.uk...]
You are not allowed to conduct automated queries

KingMacro




msg:691942
 5:29 pm on May 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Nominet TAG holders are permitted to communicate with their Automaton for queries and registration attempts at any time but are limited to 1,000 requests per rolling 24 hours. If you go beyond this you get blocked for 24 hours.

Then all you need is a system to beat every other TAG holder to the best names :-), that is the really tricky part!

am i the only person who see's the buisness potential of teaming up with say 5 other tag holders, and sharing the profits? you could check 5 times as often as the others so would have a much higher chance than any other company - and people want some domains badly enough to pay for it :-D (or... do they do that already? lol)

Edwin




msg:691943
 1:31 am on May 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

That's also against Nominet's TOS. See the last section of this...

Anti-Avoidance measures

For all of the above, there will be anti-avoidance measures to prevent circumvention of the new procedures by “Related Persons”. A person will be “Related Person” if:

- they are the same person (e.g. the same person has multiple tags); or

- they are a “Connected Person” within the meaning of s.346 of the Companies Act 1985 (as amended); or

- Nominet believes that one or more persons are operating in a way which has as its object or effect greater access or levels of use of a service than would be permitted to one person acting alone and legitimately.

In all such cases, Nominet may impose such usage or other relevant restrictions as it sees fit on all participants (unwitting or otherwise) in order to prevent the abuse.


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