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The new TLD proposals are in!
ICANN posted the submissions today.
mbauser2

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Msg#: 1831 posted 6:15 am on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just in case anyone is wondering what's coming down the pipe, ICANN has received 10 applications for 9 new top-level domains.

[icann.org...]

These are the proposals that have met "evaluation criteria", meaning ICANN believes these organizations are have the financial and technical know-how to manage a TLD. (Of course, ICANN thinks Verisign is competant....) All proposals still have to go through a public comment period (next month) before ICANN even begins the real decision-making about which domains to add to the root.

I some of these proposals are even goofier than the last bunch, but I think that a couple of the proposals (like .travel) will interest some webmasters here. If you've got strong opinions on them, you might want to get your thoughts together for the public comment period.

 

Shak

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Msg#: 1831 posted 8:25 am on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

what ever happened to .shop?

shak

EliteWeb

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Msg#: 1831 posted 8:27 am on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I like .**** :D woha yah dot x times 3 ;) out of that whole list, the others. mmmm maybe .travel for all the travel sites could build a nice filter list :D

tigger

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Msg#: 1831 posted 9:10 am on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

nice to see .****

Shak

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Msg#: 1831 posted 9:15 am on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

for those who are confused, the above are talking about . x x x

Shak

Hunter

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Msg#: 1831 posted 7:03 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I like .com

Go60Guy

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Msg#: 1831 posted 7:05 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

How about .shak?

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 1831 posted 9:58 pm on Mar 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

That triple-X domain sounds like a real winner. Not only ideal for adult sites as it makes them stand out, but it also means that there is no excuse for anyone accidentally going to a triple-X site not realizing what it was about. Basically, a TLD that also implies a content rating.

mbauser2

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Msg#: 1831 posted 4:12 am on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yeah, until some nitwit state legislature tries to make it illegal to put "sexual content" on a non- triple-X domain. That's when all hell breaks loose.

Ghettoized TLDs are a bad idea because either way. kids.us resulted in a TLD so strictly regulated nobody wants to use it. A sex-only domain would lead to stupid regulation of all other TLDs and increased legal action against the triple-x'ers (because various nitwit government agencies would be handed a self-selected list of pornographers to target).

jomaxx

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Msg#: 1831 posted 5:44 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

Is it just me or do all those proposed TLD's sound really lame? I don't even think the sex-related one will be attractive. That name just sounds seamy. Why couldn't they go with a slightly more neutral term like .adult or .eros or something?

Of course previous additions to the list of TLD's have mostly gone over like so many lead balloons. You see .biz here and there, but how often do you see .info, .museum, .coop, .aero, or .name? These options are just too late to the game.

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 1831 posted 6:26 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

>That name just sounds seamy. Why couldn't they go with a slightly more neutral term like .adult or .eros or something?

[icann.org...]

[replace the **** there with triple-X. Methinks the filters here need tweaking if even icann.org URLs are getting whacked.]

Internationalism, and cross-language issues. Also note that this proposed TLD was specifically designed for people who *were* looking for seamy. The same as the movie theater prominently displays they only show triple-X films. In fact, that triple-X rating was created *precisely* to convey seamy. There have been some serious films that the MPAA rated X because a small part was just too graphic. The triple-X rating started being used to make it clear that the film in question was hard-core porn.

Herath

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Msg#: 1831 posted 9:17 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

yeah, why didnt they use .sex instead of .x x x!

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 1831 posted 9:39 pm on Mar 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

I hope the 3x tld is approved. All kinds of fun to be had with that one. I imagine the adult site folks are already making lists of domain names to try to register. :)

dingman

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Msg#: 1831 posted 5:01 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

There's actually an RFC about TLDs for controversial content:
[ietf.org...]

edit_g

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Msg#: 1831 posted 5:03 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can anyone propose one?

paybacksa

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Msg#: 1831 posted 7:50 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

One must be very careful when allowing categorization of any kind, as it can then be used for secondary purposes.

Of what use is .org, when so many so-called non-profit .orgs are raking in dough (administrative costs in excess of 80% of operations).

Why .edu when virtually all of them are for-profit enterprises?

The best idea I have read is the one suggestion opening up the .*** to be an open field, ripe for use just as the rest of the domain name. Buy-in has a high cost, and then domains are sold out of that TLD (for whatever competitive, commercial reason). Finance industry could back it as an investment....

I'd love to "buy" the ".etc" TLD and sell a billion domain names on the open market. Imagine the aftermarket for such developed TLD real estate.... what would it be worth once it was driving a trillion US$ per year in ecommerce? And if 5% of gross operating profits were to go to feed the children of the world, imagine the growth potential....

mbauser2

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Msg#: 1831 posted 8:40 am on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Can anyone propose one?

Anyone who wants to spend $45,000 on the application fee. That's the cost to just file the application -- after that, ICANN decides (more or less in secret) whether the proposal is worth putting through a complete evaluation process.

That means there may actually have been more than 9 new TLDs proposed, but ICANN thought the other proposals were too pathetic to bother announcing to the public -- in which case, the authors of the pathetic proposals would still be out $45,000 each. As my little brother would put it, "Sucks to be those guys".

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Msg#: 1831 posted 12:57 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

More here:

[news.bbc.co.uk...]

gethan

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Msg#: 1831 posted 1:22 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Proposal: **** should henceforth for this discussion be refered to as 3x.

For example, although information on
family planning, birth control, or abortion would potentially qualify for
inclusion in a proposed .sex or .adult TLD, such information would not
intuitively be associated with a .3x TLD

From the icann [icann.org...]

Makes sense to me. Also it would be easy to filter search results, install firewall rules to stop kids stumbling (or looking) for adult material.

On the arguement that it would make the rest of the net a monitored regulated space. I disagree, it would have to work on a reporting basis, a set of guidelines - as to what constitutes adult content would be published and anything that falls into that category should be hosted on an 3x domain.

If it was simple as this, what excuse could be given for hosting adult content on a different domain?

Caveats:

Who decides what constitutes 3x? Think of the wide range of what is considered acceptable; Germany (anyone seen primetime ads there) - Iran - no showing female shoulders or ankles.

Transition period - how long?

Domain disputes! - all the .com's automatically get rights to the .3x counterpart? For a few months etc.

.3x.co.uk etc?

Fines, penalties, losing a domain?

Does anyone know why proposals for this tld were rejected on previous occasions?

finer9

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Msg#: 1831 posted 1:44 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am involved in the 3X whitepaper (although I am NOT in the adult industry, for the record) and know a bit about the subject.

Please sticky me if you have a questions/concerns/comments regarding this TLD.

Please do NOT sticky me anything related to

-registering 3X
-cost of 3X
-when 3X will be available

Only GENERAL questions please

rogerd

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Msg#: 1831 posted 1:48 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Doesn't look like any of the ersatz new.net TLDs made the cut.

gethan

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Msg#: 1831 posted 1:49 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Finer8: Does anyone know why proposals for this tld were rejected on previous occasions?

I think you could save a lot of time by answering a few of the questions so far in the forum :)

finer9

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Msg#: 1831 posted 4:07 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

My understanding of the issue is that some influential Internet safety people thought it was a bad idea to have more real-estate devoted to pornographers.

skippy

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Msg#: 1831 posted 5:17 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Domain names will be registered only at the second level (e.g.,companyname.jobs). The .jobs sTLD will not be organized at the registry level into any sub-domains or other lower level domains (e.g., third-or fourth-level domains).

I really dont see the benifit of this one. If someone wanted they could just do

jobs.companyname.com.

Maybe I am reading this wrong or not seeing the benifit.

finer9

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Msg#: 1831 posted 7:09 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

The benefit is for .jobs registry/registrar to make money ;)

skippy

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Msg#: 1831 posted 7:29 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Oh some how I did not think it would help me.

hannamyluv

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Msg#: 1831 posted 8:24 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

I hope the 3x tld is approved. All kinds of fun to be had with that one. I imagine the adult site folks are already making lists of domain names to try to register

Anyone want to bet someone's out there making money on pre-registering these?

Beyond that, how much do you think it would slow the web down if 3x is approved and EVERY pornographer in the world hits their registrar of choice all at the very second they become avaliable. Gentleman, start your keyboards... ;-)

mivox

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Msg#: 1831 posted 8:33 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Oh, we'll see a land rush the likes of which haven't been seen since the 1800's in California if .3x goes through... Domain speculators, start your engines!

That means there may actually have been more than 9 new TLDs proposed, but ICANN thought the other proposals were too pathetic to bother announcing to the public

How could the other proposals be any more pathetic than .aero and .coop? Those got approved, after all... ;)

CritterNYC

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Msg#: 1831 posted 10:36 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Of course previous additions to the list of TLD's have mostly gone over like so many lead balloons. You see .biz here and there, but how often do you see .info, .museum, .coop, .aero, or .name? These options are just too late to the game.

The only place I've encountered .info and .biz is in spam. I think they have a negative connection in web user's minds as a result of this. I've never enountered the others, with the exception of one techie's site that was a .name.

richardsi

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Msg#: 1831 posted 11:20 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

how about .www

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