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UG cloaking
need some good tips to prevent get blacklisted
seo4real




msg:678818
 9:27 am on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hello u all!

I am new to this forum so i hope this post isn't a clone :)

I use the seo cloaking techniq for a couple of years now. (more then 500 websites UG cloaked) these sites are running well but i notice google has made some changes (more sites get blacklisted) I have to make more domains to restore the damage.

Some people say that UG cloaking isn't a good way to cloak, but it's to much work to edit more then 500 websites, so i hope u people have some good tips for me.

thanks

 

volatilegx




msg:678819
 2:44 pm on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hi seo4real and welcome to WebmasterWorld :)

I'm not familiar with the term UG cloaking. Are you referring to User Agent cloaking?

seo4real




msg:678820
 2:47 pm on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

thanks
that's correct!

volatilegx




msg:678821
 7:21 pm on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

IP cloaking is preferred to User Agent cloaking because it is far more secure. It's extremely easy to crack User Agent cloaking, because it is a simple matter to fake your User Agent and visit a cloaked page masquerading as Googlebot.

Changing 500 sites to IP cloaking would be a tall order, though.

Dan

seo4real




msg:678822
 7:43 pm on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks!
But how u get an updated list of all the IP's?

PhraSEOlogy




msg:678823
 8:00 pm on Sep 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

Decent IP cloaking software will update your IP list automatically when new robots are detected.

There are IP lists out there is you look. Try google for "IP lists" and you should find what you are looking for.

upside




msg:678824
 6:58 am on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

There are other environmental variables that can be used for cloaking purposes other than REMOTE_ADDR or HTTP_USER_AGENT such as: HTTP_REFERER, REMOTE_HOST, HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE, HTTP_COOKIE, and many others. Pay attention to what connections from spiders "look like" in whole not just what their IP is.

volatilegx




msg:678825
 9:49 pm on Sep 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

While upside is correct, if you are at all serious about cloaking, you should cloak by identifying the IP address of the visitor as belonging to a search engine. Every other indicator (save possibly REMOTE_HOST) can be spoofed.

phaugh




msg:678826
 5:59 am on Sep 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Is this a new googlebot ip? 66.249.64.143

seo4real




msg:678827
 7:46 am on Sep 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

thanks for all the tips!

U know this list is updated, so i can use it with new cloaked sites?

[iplists.com...]

volatilegx




msg:678828
 1:33 pm on Sep 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

phaugh, yes, it is new. See [webmasterworld.com...]

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