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Are they cloaking?
Can't work out how a competitor has such high ranking.
jam13

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 584 posted 12:24 pm on Apr 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

We launched an ecommerce website about 9 months ago which is now starting doing pretty well in Google and Yahoo SERPs for lots of product/manufacturer specific searches (e.g. acme red widgets). However we don't seem to be able to crack the competitive 2 word search terms (e.g. widget equipment).

So looking for tips I've been trying to work out how one of the biggest players in the (UK) market get's their top 5 ranking for these phrases and I'm completely stumped: none of the phrases (or words) appear on their pages; their page rank is 5 and below (lower than ours); they have very few good backlinks; and their page design/html is poor.

Their home page is cached in Google and it matches the current one so I originally discounted the idea of cloaking, but I've just noticed that their homepage is the _only_ page that seems to come up in the SERPs - every other page (site:url search in Google) is uncached and has no title or description.

Is this an indication of cloaking?

 

seomike2003



 
Msg#: 584 posted 5:31 pm on Apr 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

If it were cloaking then you would beable to see more page's if you searched for site:www.somedomain.com

You should look into mod rewrites as a way to put more dynamic pages infront of the search engines instead of cloaking.

jam13

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 584 posted 8:29 pm on Apr 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

> If it were cloaking then you would beable to see more page's if you searched for site:www.somedomain.com

Indeed you can, and they are all uncached and have no titles or descriptions as I mentioned in my post.

> You should look into mod rewrites as a way to put more dynamic pages infront of the search engines instead of cloaking.

The site is already making extensive use of mod_rewrite, and our pages are well indexed (2,500 entries in Google at last count). We also had another page rank hike last week, so our home page is now PR6 and many interior pages are PR5.

Our competitor's home page is also now PR6, but internal pages are mostly PR0.

Blue Gravity

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 584 posted 10:24 pm on Apr 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Was your competitor's site grandfathered in for those terms perhaps?

Sticky me their url and I'll tell you if they are cloaking or not.

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