|Cloaking and Resubmission|
Minor cloaking and Google resubmission
| 10:41 pm on Dec 4, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Background: (optional reading)
Okay, I currently have Site A, which I've populated with lots of content. Keywords weren't completely optimized before - it was just a one-pass operation without any revision of content (besides minor editing like spelling, etc...). I submitted to Google back in August and it got indexed early September. The next re-index was sometime around November 10th, and the Googlebot went through a lot of my site, indexing a lot of pages.
I have PR=0, but my site is filled with content! I have a different gateway site that is similarly populated and has a PR of 5 or 6, with about 1 or 2 inbound links.
What I've Done:
Even if a surfer viewed the cached, stripped-down version, he or she would still see the same content - just without most of the graphics, so the cloaking doesn't add any content - it just removes some of the "extra" stuff.
I've also added some more content and done some keyword density checks, and my main keywords are around 5-6%, give or take .5%
What I'm Considering:
So now it's all ready to be re-indexed, but I have two problems. First, if Google discovers that I've SORT of cloaked the page, do you think I would be penalized, even for such a small change?
Second, should I resubmit to Google in hopes of getting it re-indexed sooner than 2 months?
| 4:09 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)|
Welcome to WebmasterWorld naturesflavors! :)
No offense but, the way I interpret your post, you have a bunch of things mixed together... I'll try to sort some of them... Bear with me! :)
I think your primary concern is having a PR0 on your Site A. Much has been written about PR0 problems in the Google News forum. Try a "site search" from the link at the top of this page and check out the Google News Library [webmasterworld.com].
|I have a different gateway site that is similarly populated and has a PR of 5 or 6 |
If that content is identical (or nearly identical), that may be your entire problem. Check out the Google News discussions re: duplicate content.
|if Google discovers that I've SORT of cloaked the page, do you think I would be penalized |
"Sort of cloaked the page" is like being "a little bit pregnant!" :) As far as Google is concerned, IT'S CLOAKED. If they detect your cloaking, they may well reward it with a PR0.
If it was my site, I'd disable the cloaking, insure the content was unique, and get the site into Google with something above a PR0. THEN I might try some cloaking if I couldn't achieve decent rankings with traditional on page optimization techniques.
I probably missed some things but, hopefully, this post will stimulate some additional discussion.
| 5:23 pm on Dec 5, 2002 (gmt 0)|
> I think your ... concern is having a PR0 on ... Site A
Not entirely. I realize that PR0 doesn't always equal low rankings, but this particular gateway site is in a competitive category, and I need all the PR I can get to push towards the top. My primary concern is just getting good rankings on Google, not necessarily just PR.
> If that content is identical (or nearly identical), that may be your entire problem.
No, it's not duplicate content - it's not even the same topic. An entirely new site, with new content, on a new topic. I was just referring to the amount of content and structure of that content.
> As far as Google is concerned, IT'S CLOAKED. If they detect your cloaking...
> Welcome to WebmasterWorld naturesflavors
Heh. Thanks - I've already been a post-once-in-a-blue-moon member for some time - I just forgot my username AND password, so I signed up again. :)
I appreciate your response, though. I figured it might be a little bit confusing, which is why I tried to label my sections as "Background, What I've Done, etc..."