Macguru
msg:679511 | 11:20 pm on Mar 11, 2002 (gmt 0) |
There is no sure way of knowing. A lot of people are using a browser language version that does not match the language they are speaking. Best thing is to let the user decide wich version he likes.
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volatilegx
msg:679512 | 12:40 am on Mar 13, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I was afraid somebody was going to say that :(
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jatar_k
msg:679513 | 12:42 am on Mar 13, 2002 (gmt 0) |
haha sorry volatile, i think macguru is probably right.
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Air
msg:679514 | 5:01 am on Mar 13, 2002 (gmt 0) |
It may not be a completely lost cause, there are enough sites serving based on the language setting that IMO most people set them at least to a language they understand, otherwise they encounter sites that are not understandable by them, which forces them to revisit their language setting. So they may not entirely indicate geography but they can be served a page in a language they likely understand, it's worth a shot IMHO....
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volatilegx
msg:679515 | 6:29 pm on Mar 15, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Air do you know if the language is determined by a string in the User Agent?
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Air
msg:679516 | 12:47 am on Mar 16, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Below is a sampling I collected a while back Volatilegx, it's from the environment variable $ENV{'HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE'} from visitors to one of my sites.
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = nl-be
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = fr
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = it
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = en-us
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = en
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = pt
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = de
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = en-gb
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = es-mx
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = en-ca
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = ja
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = es-pe
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = es
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE = lv
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As you can see there's quite a mixture, there were many others, the ones above are pretty self explanatory, some I had to look up 'cause I had no idea what country the abbriviation pointed to.
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Eric_Jarvis
msg:679517 | 12:40 pm on Mar 18, 2002 (gmt 0) |
bear in mind that I currently work in 15 languages...I don't want to have to change my language settings each time I change language many people in global organisations face the problem of using computers in a foreign country...again they may not want the site to decide what language they wish to use based on the preference of the regular user of the computer aside from my own multilingual work, in the last few weeks other have used the workstations here to browse the web in: French, Japanese, Italian, German, Danish and Chinese please don't assume that all web use is by a single user per computer using a single language all the time
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volatilegx
msg:679518 | 8:05 pm on Mar 18, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Air, thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for!!
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volatilegx
msg:679519 | 8:39 pm on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Cool it works! If anybody is interested, the $ENV{'HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE'} is passed as a comma and semicolon delimited list... such as es,en-us;q=0.7,ar-lb;q=0.3 meaning a International Spanish version of a page would receive top priority to the browser, then U.S. English, then Arabic from Lenbanon. The q=0.7 thing seems to have something to do with priority, as does the list order. I just pull the first item from the list and match it to a user defined string like "es" or "en-us" and redirect to a page also specified by the user.
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volatilegx
msg:679520 | 8:41 pm on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Here's the list of codes I was able to collect: Afrikaans = af
Albanian = sq
Arabic (Algeria) = ar-dz
Arabic (Bahrain) = ar-bh
Arabic (Egypt) = ar-eg
Arabic (Iraq) = ar-iq
Arabic (Jordan) = ar-jo
Arabic (Kuwait) = ar-kw
Arabic (Lebanon) = ar-lb
Arabic (libya) = ar-ly
Arabic (Morocco) = ar-ma
Arabic (Oman) = ar-om
Arabic (Qatar) = ar-qa
Arabic (Saudi Arabia) = ar-sa
Arabic (Syria) = ar-sy
Arabic (Tunisia) = ar-tn
Arabic (U.A.E.) = ar-ae
Arabic (Yemen) = ar-ye
Arabic = ar
Armenian = hy
Assamese = as
Azeri (Cyrillic) = az
Azeri (Latin) = az
Basque = eu
Belarusian = be
Bengali = bn
Bulgarian = bg
Catalan = ca
Chinese (China) = zh-cn
Chinese (Hong Kong SAR) = zh-hk
Chinese (Macau SAR) = zh-mo
Chinese (Singapore) = zh-sg
Chinese (Taiwan) = zh-tw
Chinese = zh
Croatian = hr
Chech = cs
Danish = da
Divehi = div
Dutch (Belgium) = nl-be
Dutch (Netherlands) = nl
English (Australia) = en-au
English (Belize) = en-bz
English (Canada) = en-ca
English (Caribbean) = en
English (Ireland) = en-ie
English (Jamaica) = en-jm
English (New Zealand) = en-nz
English (Philippines) = en-ph
English (South Africa) = en-za
English (Trinidad) = en-tt
English (United Kingdom) = en-gb
English (United States) = en-us
English (Zimbabwe) = en-zw
English = en
Estonian = et
Faeroese = fo
Farsi = fa
Finnish = fi
French (Belgium) = fr-be
French (Canada) = fr-ca
French (France) = fr
French (Luxembourg) = fr-lu
French (Monaco) = fr-mc
French (Switzerland) = fr-ch
FYRO Macedonian = mk
Gaelic = gd
Georgian = ka
German (Austria) = de-at
German (Germany) = de
German (Liechtenstein) = de-li
German (lexumbourg) = de-lu
German (Switzerland) = de-ch
Greek = el
Gujarati = gu
Hebrew = he
Hindi = hi
Hungarian = hu
Icelandic = is
Indonesian = id
Italian (Italy) = it
Italian (Switzerland) = it-ch
Japanese = ja
Kannada = kn
Kazakh = kk
Konkani = kok
Korean = ko
Kyrgyz = kz
Latvian = lv
Lithuanian = lt
Malay (Brunei) = ms
Malay (Malaysia) = ms
Malayalam = ml
Maltese = mt
Marathi = mr
Mongolian (Cyrillic) = mn
Nepali (India) = ne
Norwegian (Bokmal) = nb-no
Norwegian (Bokmal) = no
Norwegian (Nynorsk) = nn-no
Oriya = or
Polish = pl
Portuguese (Brazil) = pt-br
Portuguese (Portugal) = pt
Punjabi = pa
Rhaeto-Romanic = rm
Romanian (Moldova) = ro-md
Romanian = ro
Russian (Moldova) = ru-md
Russian = ru
Sanskrit = sa
Serbian (Cyrillic) = sr
Serbian (Latin) = sr
Slovak = sk
Slovenian = ls
Sorbian = sb
Spanish (Argentina) = es-ar
Spanish (Bolivia) = es-bo
Spanish (Chile) = es-cl
Spanish (Colombia) = es-co
Spanish (Costa Rica) = es-cr
Spanish (Dominican Republic) = es-do
Spanish (Ecuador) = es-ec
Spanish (El Salvador) = es-sv
Spanish (Guatemala) = es-gt
Spanish (Honduras) = es-hn
Spanish (International Sort) = es
Spanish (Mexico) = es-mx
Spanish (Nicaragua) = es-ni
Spanish (Panama) = es-pa
Spanish (Paraguay) = es-py
Spanish (Peru) = es-pe
Spanish (Puerto Rico) = es-pr
Spanish (Traditional Sort) = es
Spanish (United States) = es-us
Spanish (Uruguay) = es-uy
Spanish (Venezuela) = es-ve
Sutu = sx
Swahili = sw
Swedish (Finland) = sv-fi
Swedish = sv
Syriac = syr
Tamil = ta
Tatar = tt
Telugu = te
Thai = th
Tsonga = ts
Tswana = tn
Turkish = tr
Ukrainian = uk
Urdu = ur
Uzbek (Cyrillic) = uz
Uzbek (Latin) = uz
Vietnamese = vi
Xhosa = xh
Yiddish = yi
Zulu = zu
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Air
msg:679521 | 2:38 am on Mar 22, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Excellent list vgx, just as an aside, for most spiders the language setting will be blank ;)
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volatilegx
msg:679522 | 6:23 pm on Mar 22, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Right, Air, I'm just doing this for non-bot visitors.
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