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Cloak Program Recommendations - NT Server
Andrew_Merz

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Msg#: 160 posted 4:01 pm on Mar 14, 2001 (gmt 0)

As a newbie to SEO and cloaking software.

ICS looks to be a great cloaking program, and is industrial strength. I'd like to use it, but my site runs on an NT Server, so it appears that the system requirements of ICS are prohibitive.

Does anyone have suggestions about the best available cloaking software that can run on NT?

Mucho thanks in advance.

 

Air

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Msg#: 160 posted 12:27 am on Mar 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld Andrew.

For NT systems, I would look for one that uses ASP if at all possible. Of the commercial cloaking scripts I only know of IP-delivery as one that uses ASP. There may be others, probably the best place to start is at [dmoz.org...] and search on cloaking.

Andrew_Merz

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Msg#: 160 posted 3:18 pm on Mar 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks.

I'll do some more research on ASP cloaking. Based on what I've read, it seems that ICS is well regarded, in general. What do people who use ICS do when their customer runs their site on an NT box? Do they use another script, or can/do they place the cloaked pages on a unix/linux server while keeping the referenced pages on an NT server?

Cheers.

Air

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Msg#: 160 posted 4:44 pm on Mar 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

The reason I recommend ASP on NT/IIS systems is that its performamce is comaparable to perl/cgi on Apache *nix systems. Perl/cgi on NT bogs down too quickly as concurrent requests are made for pages.

This isn't noticeable for typical scripts, but it becomes important/noticeable if you are relying on the setup to serve pages anywhere above 5-7 pages per second. Granted that is a lot of pages, but you do have to avoid stalls during peaks, it isn't necessarily a sustained rate.

You can use any perl/cgi *nix based cloaking script to redirect the human visitor page to an NT based "real" site. It isn't as flexible a setup, since you are restricted to doing it this way, and ranking wise it will take more domains to do the promoting, but it is do-able and many do it this way.

To answer your question directly though, many who favor NT simply don't choose a *nix based script like ICS.

tcmalaska

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Msg#: 160 posted 5:42 pm on Mar 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

Perl works fine on nt, Ive done about a hundred nt installations over the last while.

THe only problem Ive run into is that most nt hosts aren't capabable of making there machines parse any extension other than shtml or shtm.

If your nt hosts know how to use there nt its not a problem using .html or .htm for your cloaked pages.

littleman

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Msg#: 160 posted 9:15 pm on Mar 15, 2001 (gmt 0)

I've had ok luck using a very lean cloaking script on NT. I don't think it would be very proatical for most people, but this is how I approched it.
I hard wired the IPs into the script itself in this fasion:
#########
if ( $RA =~ /^209\.202\.148\./
$RA =~ /^209\.67\.244\./
...
){ &spider}

Then I set it up so the script will either print the spider page or the human. The checks are kept to a minimum, it just screen againt the spider IPs and prints the human or the spider page.

I called the pages externally using the usuall way:
open(PAGE,"C:\\path\\stuff\\here");
my(@wlines) = <PAGE>;
close(PAGE);
foreach $line(@wlines) {
print $line;
}
Though very sparse, that approch seemed to work. But if you wanted to get very lean I bet hard coding the page into the script would be better.
print <<"EndofHTML";
code here
EndofHTML

You know, I've had 80k+ requests on my quite large script (40k) on a linux box with a celeron 500 prossesor and 128 MB ram without any problems. NT is just a pig.

pete

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Msg#: 160 posted 12:15 pm on Mar 22, 2001 (gmt 0)

I agree with Air regarding using asp pages on NT and IP Delivery's probably the best way to go if you want to purchase an asp script.

Depending on your time, you could also select a good perl/cgi script and port it.

Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 160 posted 1:40 pm on Mar 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

Anyone ever use PHP or ModPerlfor a an NT box? I've found both are pretty good. (sorry, don't know of any pure php cloaking scripts).

Andrew_Merz

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Msg#: 160 posted 1:59 pm on Mar 23, 2001 (gmt 0)

Thanks for all the help.

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