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What applications do you use for development?

 9:01 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hello everyone,

I am trying to get some input of you as to what applications you use to develop websites and web applictions.
This is to get some feedback for a book I am writing, and with your permissions I will publish your motivation(s) for using the particular application(s).

Thanks for your cooperation


brotherhood of LAN

 10:26 pm on Feb 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

As a relative novice, some people may laugh when I use Frontpage ;)

It works for me fine. It can work alongside access/excel etc without a prob. I do admit I have to edit the HTML a bit, and cut some of the excess out of it, but i will continue to use FP for ease of use

I also use photoshop, and thats about it really. I sometimes use some freeware sparingly, and dabble using other programs, but for now, those programs do the business for me (a science site and local business sites).

I imagine the more experienced users have a vast array of software at their fingertips ;)


 12:28 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver 4 - IMO the best WYSISYG editor out there with the cleanest code.

Fireworks 4 - Integrates well with DW for use of rollovers ,preloading images and optimisation of images. I suppose Image Ready will do the same thing, but I learnt on Fireworks so I'll stay with it for now. It does however create quite bloated code.

Photoshop 6 - I think I only use 5% of Photoshops functions and it more than looks after my needs. I only wish I had the time to learn more to do with it.

AdobeAcrobat 5 - PDF's, what can I say?

CFStudio 4.5.2 - Have started using CFStudio to write CF Dynamic pages and web applications. Integrates well with both HomeSite and DW4 (and so it should coming from the same company). Colour codes the code making it easy to see mistakes (which there are a lot of at the moment).

And the actual server side is Apache 1.3.22, ColdFusion 5, and SQL SERVER 2000.

brotherhood of LAN

 12:44 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Just a little add on, I intend to use Flash 5 (which I have), but only sparingly as I know little about it, and try to enable my site to be visible to as many users as possible


 1:01 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

All I need is ultraedit, wsftp, and any spreadsheet that will hold my flatfiles for work down the columns. Lview for photos/graphics suffices for my projects.


 1:03 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use Dreamweaver and Dreamweaver UltraDev for the basic layout of the site, and to generate the table code when needed.

I then do most of my editing in a fabulous text editor called Textpad (www.textpad.com) - the best $28 I ever spent on software.

For graphics I use Fireworks exclusively.


 1:06 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

GoLive for page design (generates clean, standards-compliant code)
Photoshop for almost all my graphics, web or print
BBEdit for hand editing code (Mac-only, AFAIK)
Acrobat for the mountains of PDF product documentation we have

I've just started playing with FileMaker for manipulating flat-file databases on the desktop... up 'till now, I just used BBEdit for that as well.

All the servers I've hosted on have been Linux/Apache boxes with Perl and the other standard goodies.


 1:14 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Arachnophilia html text editor is v e r y clean.
Paint shop pro 7 and occasionally photoshop 6
Flash 5 for banners to put on others sites (lol)
Last but not least sites like this excellent one to bone up on techniques and tips.


 1:23 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use emacs. Why? It's free, it's powerful, and it lets me work directly with the html code.


 1:52 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Hey, what else do you need but vi ? ;) (gvim, of course)

The Gimp makes a fine companion. Next to that theres's xfig for diagrams, and I can't believe I actually started using Flash5 as an application front-end on top of XMLRPC.

One thing I'm thinking about is to write a little converter, that would take files from StarOffice 6, and turn the XML data into HTML markup. It should be relatively straightforward to set up a configurable translation from text styles to <h#> and whatever else you need. Have it fill the result into an HTML document template, and you can let any non-techie write your content in a normal word processor. Unfortunately, that converter doesn't exist yet, so I'm still writing my HTML manually.


 1:57 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

>Arachnophilia html text editor is v e r y clean.

Yep, me too

>Paint shop pro 7 and occasionally photoshop 6

Likewise again



 3:44 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver is very nice for playing with layouts. For text editing on my PC, I use editpad (www.jgsoft.com I think) and have renamed the file notepad.exe so that all those programs which automatically launch notepad(ex: ws_ftp), now launch editpad instead. vi if I'm editing on the server, its pretty quick once you get used to it. Used to use WS_FTP extensively, played with a couple other ftp'ers that had benefits, but am currently migrating to using WinSCP. Its a poorer user interface, but its the only encrypted ftp client I know of and I'm a security freak. Still use my old Paint Shop Pro 6 occasionally, but have mostly migrated to photoshop 6. Tried PHP IDE (www.phpide.com) for awhile, but the color coding (especially w/ complex strings) was messed up so much it was hardly usable. If anyone knows any other good PHP ide's around, let me know. I might just see what Visual Studio does with such files. Visual Studio for C++ scripting. Putty for telnet (security again). Opera for browsing. Winamp with the milkdrop visualization plugin (www.geisswerks.com) for relaxing - I just bought a new video card primarily for this app. Hmm, thats the unique stuff at least.


 11:54 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use Arachnophilia for mark up and some site management...every so often I'll work in notepad just to keep in shape, it's the thing you can be sure almost all clients will have if you need to change anything whilst on their premises

WS-FTP for FTP, there is no competition, and I've tried a few

PSP7 for images, though I tend to subcontract graphics

Xenu for link checking

Opera for browsing...though again I also use Netscape 4 and IE now and again

I think that about covers it


 11:57 am on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

I'm using Homesite, my friend of many years. I've even told Opera to use it for View Source - really helps for quickly making sense of other sites.


 12:15 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

dreamweaver 2 for website design.(well, DW 4 is jsut TOOOO slow on my p2 366 celeron)
ultraedit for manual code correction
adobe imagestyler for buttons/logos etc.



 12:28 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Note Tab Pro (with our custom clipbooks), LeechFTP, Paint Shop Pro 6 (could never afford Photoshop and it seems to be over kill for Web work when we played with it several times over 4 years), Xenu, Putty, 3 main browsers.


 2:16 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Another Dreamweaver (UltraDev 4) and Fireworks guy. I also use Photoshop for masking...

I just started getting into Perl, so I use NoteTab Light or Code Genie for a lot of manual stuff.

Flash 5 is my new toy (just can't seem to get the vector stuff I want from FreeHand, believe it or not, plus I have a glimpse of 6) and CuteFTP/SmartFTP for uploads.

Misc: Xenu, TextTally, CSE HTML Validator....a lot of the stuff I've seen mentioned here.


 3:13 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Netobjects Fusion (No I'm not joking. It is a great piece of software)
Dreamweaver Ultradev
CodeCharge (gotta be seen to be believed)
ShopFactory (Makes shopping carts. Lots of features and easy to use)


 3:28 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver (such an amazing tool)
Fireworks (such an amazing tool)
Flash (such an amazing tool)
Photoshop (sometimes - big graphic jobs)

For text editing i use Dreamweaver - dual monitors means I can see both code and visual as it happens.

Also use Quark, Acrobat and Bullet Proof FTP


 4:07 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

Dreamweaver 4 - everyday basic stuff
Fireworks 4 - animated banners
Photoshop 6 - Graphics
TextPad - XSLT, CSS, JS, JSP, HTML (a really cool program! as was mentioned here before...)
InterDev - ASP
JDeveloper - Java Servlets

FTP Voyager - great FTP software, way faster than FTP with Dreamweaver, plus better for working with Perl, you can really see if you upload in binary or ...


 5:05 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

PC - I use Textpad (great) for coding php, perl, asp and anything else I need to (no WYSIWYG), cuteFTP and secureCRT

MAC - AnarchiePro, BBedit(the best) and Nifty telnet

Photoshop 6 and Fireworks 4 for all of my graphical needs, not a big imageready fan, I find fireworks compression better and it is easy to use for animated gifs

as many browsers as I can possibly cram onto both machines


 6:32 pm on Feb 26, 2002 (gmt 0)

To my mind it doesn't matter much, I prefer to let Perl, ImageMagick, XSSI, Interchange and mod_rewrite do the hard work (and I use VIm on Linux and Notepad on Windows to play with those). I would use Paint Shop Pro for graphics if I had to do preparation.

Request: I'm looking for a decent keyboard friendly Windows FTP client. I tend to use CuteFTP 2.0 when I'm on 'doze and haven't found another client that's keyboard friendly enough. Unfortunately I have date problems with Cute 2 and my staff won't respond well if I roll out a command line app' to all desks. Cost isn't an issue - suggestions anyone? Maybe I should just set all the domains up with rsync.



 3:20 am on Feb 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

I use Homesite and Wsftp.


 4:55 am on Feb 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Adobe GoLive for - HTML editor (writes clean html, but is a memory hog)

Microsoft Word - editing html/javascript by hand and micros for various functions. (any text editor will work, I use it because I have it)

Microsoft Excel - sorting data and formatting long html data tables using micros. (allows me to format long table rows faster that using Adobe GoLive and allows me to sort each table to meet my needs)

Photoshop - for bitmap graphics. (its the standard application for image editing)

Illustrator - for vector graphics. (its the standard application for image creation)

Extensis Phototools - for converting Photoshop files into animations. (simple inexpensive application for converting bitmaps to animations)

OpenWebScope - for local website report generation. (fast, flexible and inexpensive log file analyzier.

WSFTP Pro for FTP (it works)

MacDrive for importing Mac files. (reduces the need to to support two platforms)


 11:06 am on Feb 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

arachnophilia - absolutely brilliant. very useful for making changes across large numbers of sites and checking for missing tags, broken links and so on.

paint shop pro 6 - will upgrade when i get more time. have played with psp7 and i like it. animation shop is good too.

xara webstyle - for creating text based images quickly - normally only test with this as it's quicker then PSP and when i find something i like, i redo it in PSP.

ws ftp - wouldnt use any other ftp software

and thats about it ...


 12:29 pm on Feb 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

Homesite - a good easy to use HTML editor

WS_ftp or Bullet Proof - WS for basic ftp suff, bullet proof for the more advanced stuff (scheduled uploads etc)

Photoshop - good for creating/editing web images

Map Edit - for image mapping

I also have serveral other small freeware programs that I use now and then..


 12:44 pm on Feb 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

I forgot one...pencil and paper (or Word outline numbering, or Visio or PostIt notes and a big desk). Just being able to see a map of the whole thing before you start, and as you continue is priceless.

I liked Arachnophilia, but wanted directory to index.html conversion. Maybe it'e there by now? I'll go look.



 9:19 pm on Feb 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

ultra edit
photo shop
ws ftp


 1:00 am on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Homesite - Coding, HTML
vi for touchups on code.
Photoshop - Graphics
WebObjects - ecommerce development/production. Soon (hopefully) to be moved over to Oracle.
Adobe Acrobat - we do a lotta (well, it seems to me....) PDFs.

SSH for shell access and file transfers.
All servers are Apache and either Linux or Solaris, except our intranet website which still runs IIS on Win2K.


 1:15 am on Mar 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

Paint Shop Pro Trial :)
(soon to upgrade to PhotoShop)

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