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All reward cards now non-qualified?!
Processing costs about to double
jollymcfats




msg:635855
 6:10 pm on Mar 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

We received this notice for our processor:
Effective April 1, 2006 reward cards (those cards that offer cardholders points, cashback, or other benefits with each purchase) will be processed as non qualified transactions. This will result in higher processing charges for transactions involving reward cards.

Anyone else seeing this increase? It seems like pretty much everyone uses some sort of reward card these days. Our non-qual rate is a bit less than half of our fully qualified rate, which is fine because our non-qual has been almost nil. Now it will be a huge percentage of our volume. This is crazy!

A question to those close to the inside of processing: is this coming from across the board interchange price increases or just this processor sticking it to us?

 

ispy




msg:635856
 3:08 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Do you put your advertising and other micellaneous business charges on a rewards card? If you do then it's really 1 or 2% less you are paying for processing since you get it back through the rear end.

hoosierdraft




msg:635857
 6:57 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think you're barking up the wrong tree ispy. The card issuers are the ones that decided to entice consumers to choose their card for their credit needs by offering rewards programs. Merchants did not make that decision. But now the card issuers are requiring merchants to foot the bill. I think the merchants are the ones getting it "through the rear end".

wingslevel




msg:635858
 7:05 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

we just went through a full review of our credit card fees - downgrades were causing our overall costs to rise 50% above our base moto cost of 2.19

business cards, rewards cards, international cards etc. will all do it to you

my conclusion was to go one of 2 ways - if you are small (less than $50k per month) then go to paypal because their new program is an absolute flat rate of 2.something with no downgrades - if you are bigger, get on to a interchange-plus plan - guess what? - your processor will never tell you this even exists, but if you are persistent, you should be able to get it set up - ours takes effect 4/1

otc_cmnn




msg:635859
 9:49 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Our bank has been screwing us on this one for a while. Claiming it comes from the CC companies themselves and they are just passing those costs on to us.

Nice eh, wish I could come up with some fancy consumer marketing schemes and then just pass the costs of them on to my suppliers.

Gotta love Monopolies! And let's face it Visa/MC are the same frikkin company. Choose Coke or Pepsi - They'll both rot your teeth.

LifeinAsia




msg:635860
 10:51 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Too bad there's not some way to tell ahead of time if it's a rewards card.

Of course, then all the merchants would refuse to process them, and the card holders would complain to the card companies that the cards are unusable, and the card companies would have to drop the extra charges. So you know that ain't gonna happen!

I see a class action lawsuit in a few years when all the merchants band together, similar to the lawsuit a few years back regarding processing debit cards. So everyone- make sure you save those monthly statements to prove the higher "unqualified" charges that are being forced upon you.

By the way, I'm interested in knowing what processor you use. Please sticky me if the mod won't allow you to post the name.

wingslevel




msg:635861
 11:56 pm on Mar 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

>Claiming it comes from the CC companies themselves and they are just passing those costs on to us.

yup, this is what we have been hearing from our processor. thing is, if you get set up on interchange-plus, they pass through the wholesale interchange costs plus a few basis points - we were able to negotiate .12 for the processor - this means that the highest fee we'll pay (one of the rewards cards) is going to be 2.65 plus our .12 for a total of 2.77% - before interchange plus, this card was costing us a total of over 4% - of course the processor was pocketing all of this fluff...

jollymcfats




msg:635862
 4:34 pm on Mar 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the tip on interchange-plus! I was wracking my brain trying to remember what that plan was called. I'll see if our current processor will offer it, seems like the best (or maybe only!) bet.

ispy




msg:635863
 8:09 am on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

I mean using a business credit card for your own business expenses, wholesale purchasing, with rewards on the card getting the cash rebates yourself on the back end.

LifeinAsia




msg:635864
 4:16 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

ispy,

You're missing the whole point of the thread. We merchants who accept credit cards for payment are being charged an extra amount per transaction because of people like you using rewards cards.

YOU get the rewards benefit while WE (NOT the credit card company) have to foot the bill.

ispy




msg:635865
 8:34 pm on Apr 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you can't beat them, join them.

Peter Cornstalk




msg:635866
 1:07 am on May 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

Definetly try to put all of your business and personal expenses on rewards cards! :)

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