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Piracy on a gigantic scale
Chinese company duplicating well-known websites under its domain
derekwong28




msg:630351
 3:23 pm on Jan 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is a Chinese website that is duplicating websites on an incredible scale. It looks like that it is grabbing all websites on the Internet automatically. It has already grabbed ours and is possible that it is causing a decrease in Google SERPS results.

The domain is ibu.com, try these

<snip>

Aslo try substituting your domain in there and see whether it had already grabbed yours

Derek

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 5:41 pm (utc) on Jan. 21, 2005]
[edit reason] please - no specifics [/edit]

 

larryhatch




msg:630381
 6:14 am on Mar 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

Looking at the source code, the ibu site has apparently copied
your page exactly, and apparently without your permission.
I wouldn't worry too much about a duplicate penalty from 1bu's mirror
though, Google is on to them.
Its the undiscovered scrapes and copies that scare me. -Larry

beyondenchanted




msg:630382
 6:17 am on Mar 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

update from beyondenchanted:

I did a trace on the 1bu.com and it traces to the numeric:

202.96.140.119

which when viewed in my browser appears as:

http://www.8U8.com/

So... who is http://www.8U8.com/

any thoughts? I've contacted my tech support thru my hosting
company to see what they have to say about it. In the meantime
I am doing an IP block on 202.96.140.119 to see if that will have
any effect. I'm open to all help and insights here. Thanks!

beyondenchanted

[edited by: lorax at 1:49 pm (utc) on Mar. 31, 2005]
[edit reason] delinked [/edit]

larryhatch




msg:630383
 7:40 am on Mar 31, 2005 (gmt 0)

What you want to do, I think, is see if they are taking your page on the fly,
or simply have made their own copy of it.

That's real easy. Make a small change to your page, date or whatever.
Call up the 1bu copy and see if it stays the same or makes the same change.

Disallowing one DNS # probably won't have much effect at all, either way. - Larry

truemat




msg:630384
 1:37 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Had this a few years ago, good luck. Took me ages to sort it out.

beyondenchanted




msg:630385
 6:02 pm on Apr 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

A few days ago I discovered after reading these posts that these folks in China have already pirated my front page as well.

They are catching
it live on each display. All site updates show up asap on their priated
page. I have contacted my hosting company and they seem to be at a loss as to what to do to help put a stop to it. I have blocked the IP numeric
for 1bu.com on my server, but that has no effect. I am open to all suggestions that are within my abilities as a webmaster to put a stop to
this. Emailing them of course had no effect. Any ideas please?

BeyondE

[edited by: lorax at 7:28 pm (utc) on April 6, 2005]
[edit reason] removed example [/edit]

kevin3d




msg:630386
 10:46 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

I don't know if this will shed any light on matters, but here goes.

After reading this thread the other day I checked a site that features some of my father-in-laws work. I looked at 1bu address and got a error page. I went and checked the genuine site and found it was down.

This morning I found the genuine site was back up and lo-and-behold, the 1bu.com version was up and running as well.

Ok, I'm a newbie so many of the things mentioned in this thread are a bit over my head (though I'm anxious to learn), but does this suggest some kind of realtime/non-cached relationship between geniune sites and their 1bu counterparts? Does this suggest a method for frustrating this type of thing? (blocking ip addresses was mentioned).

And thanks to all for attending to this matter. I'm off to lodge my compliant with Google in the manner suggested earlier in this thread....

derekwong28




msg:630387
 11:15 am on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Has anybody tried to remove their site by submitting to this page?

1bu.com/setfilter/set.asp

I wonder if it works

beyondenchanted




msg:630388
 8:25 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

No the filtering page does not work.
I tried it last week. I even installed their
oddly worded robots.txt file - no effect.
My page would still come up.

( RE: 1bu.com/setfilter/set.asp )

BeyondE

larryhatch




msg:630389
 9:04 pm on Apr 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

Oh heck, the "remove your page/content" stuff is just eyewash
for the sake of search engines and lawyers.
The biggest scraper in my niche has something similar with a email
link. Emails go unanswered, no matter how many and for how long.

These are the same people with the weasel worded "fair use"
(without permission) disclaimers at the bottom.
Pablum for the naive.
We know what they are doing. - Larry

j0in




msg:630390
 8:23 pm on Apr 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

Remove work is normal

in http://www.1bu.com/setfilter/set.asp

Say can't Remove is idiot.

[edited by: lorax at 9:22 pm (utc) on April 22, 2005]
[edit reason] Removed example URLs [/edit]

GaryK




msg:630391
 9:42 pm on Apr 22, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is more than just a e-comm issue. My site doesn't sell anything, but it does require members to login and it's appearing on 1bu. With that in mind this seems more like a phishing expedition than anything else.

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