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More than 37 Third Party Credit Card Processors?
Looking for ALL 3rd Party Processors
raycruzer




msg:633973
 10:24 pm on Jul 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have so far identified and profiled 37 third party credit card processors fot the Maculator project:

2CheckOut, Affero, BTClick&Buy, CCAvenue, CCBill, CCNow, ClickBank, DigiBuy, DigitalCandle, FastPay, iBill, iKobo, ImagineNation, InstaBill, Jettis, Kagi, MembershipPlus, Moneybookers, MultiCards, MyPaySystems, NoChex, PartyKey, Pay-Line, Paymate, PayPal, Process54, ProPay, Reg.Net, RegNow, RegSoft, Share*It, StormPay, SWREG, V-Share, Verotel, VolPay, Yahoo! PayDirect.

Have I missed any?

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

 

ogletree




msg:633974
 10:30 pm on Jul 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for a kw list.

kodaks




msg:633975
 10:46 pm on Jul 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yahoo has a HUGE directory of third part credit card processors.
[dir.yahoo.com...]

raycruzer




msg:633976
 5:59 pm on Jul 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure if Armenia and Russia are included in some of the international processors on my list. You can Google for "compare 3rd party multi-countries" to find references to the international listings.

Thanks to the previous suggestion regarding the Yahoo Directory listing, I was able to identify a few more 3rd party processors that will soon be added to my database.

Most of the listings on the Yahoo list are e-cash, e-gold or pre-paid account providers, however. To list all the e-cash types would be another project. Maybe somebody else wants to take that on?

My list only includes services that allow buyers to pay by credit cards in one transaction.

monipro




msg:633977
 9:20 am on Jul 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

and can you rate them? based on prices, usability, reliability, etc.

raycruzer




msg:633978
 7:42 pm on Jul 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

Free Setup, Annual, Monthly Fees:

Affero, BTClickandBuy, CCBill, DigitalCandle, FastPay, iBill, iKobo, InterBill, Jettis, Kagi, Membership+, Moneybookers, NoChex, Paymate, PayPal, Process54, Reg.Net, setSystems, Share*It, StormPay, SWREG, V-Share, Verotel

Discount Rate < 3%:

CCNow, FastPay, iKobo, InstaBill, Moneybookers, NoChex, Paymate, PayPal, Yahoo! PayDirect

On the Maculator filter drop-down list you can pick these selections as well as Digital Products, Digital Software, Digital Non-Software, Directory Marketing, High-Risk Content, Multi-Countries, Multi-Currencies, Multi-Languages, Affiliates Opportunity and other selections.

There are a few more processors like LotaPay, for example, who refuse to provide any fee information? LotaPay is Japan-based and specializes in high-risk content. In response to my e-mail about rates, they only stated that "The rate are depend on what kind of business you have."

Because of suggestions from this forum and others, the list has now expanded to 41 3rd party processors.

Thank you

monipro




msg:633979
 12:51 pm on Aug 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Raycruzer, this maculator surprised me really much. Thanks for the info. I'll need tons of time to read only the articles in that maculator site.

raycruzer




msg:633980
 3:17 am on Aug 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

You're welcome!

The Maculator is a dynamic research project that relies very heavily on information provided by forums such as this one.

We also need to know if any of the 41 third party processors have changed their rates or offerings or if users have had positive or negative experiences of note with any of the processors identified?

Namaste




msg:633981
 6:35 pm on Aug 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

how about those accepting European mechants?

raycruzer




msg:633982
 7:44 am on Aug 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

There are a number of multi-country 3rd party processors on the list. Many are based in Europe and several US-based processors also accept merchants in Europe. iKobo, Moneybookers and MultiCards support merchants from many countries and accept many product lines, as well.

There are others, as well, some of which focus on specific product lines. The Maculator database has now grown to 41 third party processors. At least one more European provider will be added in a few days.

OlRedEye




msg:633983
 7:26 pm on Aug 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

Anybody heard about these?
electronictransfer.com
and
ecash4.net ...?
here's what they offer... note the 0.5% transaction rate?

Free eCash4.net Merchant Account setup
Free Payment Gateway setup
No Application fees
No Programming Necessary
No Statement fees
No annual or monthly fees
No deposit
No Credit history check
No security deposit for High Risk Merchants
Merchant account for Onshore/Offshore businesses
All business types welcome (inc. High Risk Merchant)
Aproval rate over 99.99%
Payment Gateway in few seconds
Merchant Account Included
Real Time Payment Processing
Fully automated payment
Free Offshore Business Checking Account for your company
Prepaid Internet MasterCard for online shopping
0.50% per Transaction for regular merchants
Up to 3% for High Risk Merchants (Casino, Adults Business, Gambling, MLM)
No other Transaction Fee
Low Batching Fee
Withdraw by SWIFT transfer
Up to USD 100 for Each Client You Refer
SSL 128bit secured
Free 24/7 technical support
And more...

weird? or is it me?

raycruzer




msg:633984
 2:06 am on Aug 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

There are many eCash providers on the web that allow any individual to pre-pay cash to establish an account without necessarily having a credit account. eCash4.net is one of these. They are very useful for buyers who do not qualify for credit card accounts. For merchants they are useful to attract buyers who do not have viable credit cards.

If you look closely at what eCash4.net offers you will see that you cannot accept credit card payments with the eCash4.net account unless you establish a merchant account with eCast4.net. The merchant account they offer requires an application fee of USD $59. There are several other requirements and restrictions for these accounts as well.

Some e-commerce pundits have stated that half of the potential buyers on the web do not qualify for credit cards. If this is true, it should encourage merchants to open up an e-cash account of some kind in addition to a regular merchant account and possibly a 3rd party processor account, as well. This will allow the buyer to select the payment option that is most accessible to or preferred by the buyer.

OlRedEye




msg:633985
 1:41 am on Aug 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Are you saying they are actually legit? Any knowledge of them?
Or may I not be so specific in open forum..

raycruzer




msg:633986
 7:19 am on Aug 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have not studied the e-cash alternatives as much as I have the 3rd party processors. This is mainly due to the primary objective of being able to accept credit cards online. With e-cash accounts you cannot directly accept credit cards online.

It seems that e-cash alternatives are growing in competition and this may be an indication that there is a significant market for these alternatives. Many of these alternatives provide conversion services between gold accounts and other e-cash accounts.

The e-cash industry is one that needs to be investigated more thoroughly by someone. Currently, my own research time is devoted to 3rd party credit card processors and merchant account providers.

OlRedEye




msg:633987
 7:44 am on Aug 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

I am missing something here, maybe because of the many hours of surfing for solutions...
The offer listed above is for a merchant account, payment gateway and real time cc processing if i'm reading it right. And that just cannot be.
I'm in search of direct cc processing too, just can't afford to pay $manymany setup fee ++++ at the moment. So you find you tell YA?

raycruzer




msg:633988
 7:29 pm on Aug 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

The eCash4.net website provides confusing language. I have clipped a part of their Merchant Account information:

====================================================

Online credit card processing
If you want to receive payments from payment (credit) cards on the Internet, you can use services of eCash4net. For the acceptance of this service you must own a merchant account at eCash4net, which must be verified. The service connected with the acceptance of payment cards requires other additional verification of the client going beyond usual requirements connected with the opening of a current merchant account as provided for above.

The acceptance and clearance of payment cards are only available to legal entities (and not to natural persons that are not entrepreneurs). There are no restrictions connected with the country of origin of the company, but there are some restrictions concerning business activities of the merchant.

What documents do we need from you for the discussion of your preliminary account:
Extract from the Companies Register (Certificate of Incorporation)
Copy of the Association Agreement and of the Articles of Association for the company (Bylaws)
Copy of passport or personal ID document confirming the place of residence and bank references concerning all directors
Copy of passport or personal ID document confirming the place of residence and bank references concerning all persons controlling the company (if the company is controlled by a legal entity, then the Extract from the Companies Register and a copy of the Articles of Association, including references concerning directors)
Bank references to the company and if the company does not have any bank account, then two business references (e.g. from a business partner, auditor, accountant, lawyer, companies register, business chamber, etc.)
Business plan describing presupposed activities or description of the business activities that have already been implemented
Information on what way it is possible to manage the client’s complaints
Fee amounting to USD 59, connected with the costs of verification and due diligence

...................

Note: The service connected with the credit card processing is ONLY available to registered clients that have an account at eCash4net. Before you ask for a service connected with the credit card processing, you must open an account and register yourself into the eCash4net system.

eCash4.net reserves the right to refuse any application for credit card processing. The fee amounting to USD 59 is a non-returnable fee even in the case that the application is not positively managed and the account is not opened. The fee serves for covering the costs connected with due diligence procedures.

======================================================

As you can see from the above, eCash4.net has the e-cash "merchant account" program for the rates you quoted that do not include processing credit cards. Their "credit card processing" program costs more, including the non-refundable USD 59 application fee.

I'm sure they have other fees for processing credit cards, as well, even though they may not be published. This is because Visa and MasterCard both charge interchange fees for all credit card transactions that are over 1% and possibly higher depending on the type of product or service. This cost cannot be avoided by any processor.

Perhaps you should send them an e-mail requesting more information and clarification of their fees for processing Visa and MasterCard transactions?

progressivebiz




msg:633989
 1:04 am on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

My online business(that I am the webmaster/programmer for as well) does information brokering and we have found that most of the reputable firms charge a statement fee and a gateway fee, and then a percentage of the the sale (2.9 to 5.9%), plus some loose change around or up to 50 cents. The escrow/anti-fraud companies such as paypal, moneybookers, yowcow, or ikobo all have unique billing and merchant payout policies, some favor the customers others favor the merchant. Ikobo is owned by what once was a ponzi scheme company, yowcow is young but has limits on what it gives out to the merchant ($205) a month, as does iKobo ($500)...both request personal information, such as drivers licences or utility bills, bank account information, etc to give you more than their base amount.

Paypal, though only serving the US, is a good bet...just a shame that there are not more...They all offer good affiliate programs however! If you need help with this stuff let me know, they are all still calling my home wanting me to sign up to their expensive fees(they are if you aren't making any money yet)...

progressivebiz




msg:633990
 2:35 am on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

charge.com also does this stuff, but they are high dollar...to expensive for most entrepenuers, almost 800 dollars...there is freemerchantsource, and many others, but they charge alot like charge does...

Paymate listed above seems to be for australian patrons only, and some of those companies want minor money upfront, or monthly fees along with Articles of Incorporation, etc...perhaps even your "next newborn child" or a slice of your DNA...ha (meaning --- humor)...It seems that companies providing these services just take and take before you even get a chance to make any money (or those that you webmaster for, if not webmastering for yourself)...

It's easier to offer little things and go through someone inexpensive and then move up in the world to a higher transaction based company...

It's 50 to 100 on average to open a US merchant/business account at your local bank...you'll just need some forms for tax purposes and some forms stating you are doing business as such and such(which cost money on the government level)...

You may even need a franchise license, or a sales tax permit....the list goes on...but you at least have a building to go to and to complaint in, in case something goes wrong...then all you would need is to pay an online gateway company, and or to buy software that can talk to your local bank...

Well, that's alot for now...

Good luck!

OlRedEye




msg:633991
 4:36 am on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Strange about the DNA remark... I used it on another board a few days ago re 3rd party payment processors but in respect to customers - making it difficult for customers to pay - and got kicked off for it :)

raycruzer




msg:633992
 5:07 am on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

The picture is not as dark as some people seem to say about 3rd party processors.

After all, you don't expect to get something of value for nothing?

Towards the beginning of this thread I identified over 20 3rd party processors that offer their services for no upfront fees, annual fees, or monthly fees. Many of these have relatively low discount rates, as well.

If you're working with startup businesses, I think this is an option that should be presented in the proper context.

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