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Shopping Carts for Dummies
Need a shopping cart system for beginner
aaronjf




msg:633808
 12:35 am on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

I know next to nothing about cgi or any other scripting out side of HTML. Thrust in to Webmaster role, I have to come up with a shopping cart system. I am looking for a system that can be handled by a third party and plugs directly to our site (underconstruction). However, if there is a simple WYSIWYG type software for the Mac OS that anyone knows of for "do it yourself" shopping carts, I would love to know about them.

Does anyone have any advice????

 

brotherhood of LAN




msg:633809
 12:39 am on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

aaronjf, i see where youre coming from and welcome to webmaster world ;)

It all depends on what your looking for. If its a small time program your looking for there are many free sources for such programs on the web.

Some of these are not far away from cut and paste jobs, or you maybe have to change some text here and there in some files to get the cart running.

You can also do a site search on here, the links at the top left.

Hope this helps!

mivox




msg:633810
 12:48 am on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

PayPal now offers shopping cart services. I've heard they're very easy to set up, and they handle your payment processing too.

Also, if you're willing to pay the hosting fees, Yahoo Stores has online store building tools, and you can link to your Yahoo Store from your main website quite easily (or you can have your entire website hosted on Yahoo Stores). For Yahoo though, you will still need to be able to process your own tansactions, either through a regular business merchant account (if you have one) or through an online payment service.

brotherhood of LAN




msg:633811
 12:55 am on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ive never tried yahoo personally but I assume that Yahoo would make it very easy to do what mivox said.

Keep reading up in here and by next year youll be looking for a custom made one to satisfy all your new ideas :)

JeremyL




msg:633812
 10:30 pm on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

I would stay away from Yahoo if your looking for easy. I tried their system and all it did was confuse me and I'm an experienced web designer. It's definitally not user friendly. Try [x-cart.com...] or [shoppingq.com...] if your looking for ease of use.

Marcia




msg:633813
 10:41 pm on Mar 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've looked at some Yahoo sites recently, they're convenient, but have limitations for optimization compared to other types of sites.

A great option for remote shopping cart is Mal's Ecommerce [mals-e.com], which is absolutely free. It works for check payments and PayPal and ProPay (both 3rd party processors) and if regular merchant account processing is an option in the future all it takes is simple changes. It interfaces with several processors. If there is a storefront, credit card info can be retrieved and entered through the regular merchant account.

For other than big sites products can be on HTML pages and linked to secure pages for ordering, regardless of the cart or the platform.

Choices may depend on budget, but I remember Americart was mentioned a while back as having an option for static product pages. I believe there's an annual fee.

mivox




msg:633814
 12:12 am on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

I looked all over Mal's Ecom site, and I couldn't find any mention of ProPay...

Although it would certainly work for hand-processing transactions through ProPay, it didn't look like they 'seamlessly' integrated with eachother.

Marcia




msg:633815
 4:08 am on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mal's doesn't interface, that's not how ProPay works. For example, crafters can take credit card info to sell at craft shows using ProPay. They log on to the ProPay site and enter the info for the credit card billing manually. Same with web site orders.

Some have had increases in their web ordering, since the people don't have to join like they do with PayPal. Some use both, and a great number of them use Mal's, since they have home made sites or sites at free hosts where they can't use regular shopping carts. It's also cheaper for them if they have sites done for them, because they can use cheap hosting and the code is very simple so they can maintain their sites themselves.

sun818




msg:633816
 6:35 pm on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

mivox is correct, there is no integrated interface with ProPay through Mal's cart. There are two ways to use ProPay. One is to let the buyer enter the CC details into the shopping cart, you retrieve them, and manually plug them into the ProPay web interface. This requires a lot of data entry for one sale.

There is another way. And that is to create "OTHER NON-SECURE PAYMENTS" but call it Visa/MasterCard. When the buyer clicks "Checkout", their order is partially done. The sellers logs into ProPay and uses the Get Paid, Request by E-mail feature. Send the the buyer a secure invoice for the total. This method minimizes data entry for the seller.

mivox




msg:633817
 7:01 pm on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Well, if you're willing to spend around $400 (I think that's the price range), you can use ProPay's XML interface which allows you to integrate directly with a lot of carts, but after looking at the documentation, it's well beyond the "for Dummies" realm. I'd hesitate to jump in and mess with the code, so I was just hoping Mal's may have made a deal with ProPay, or found a keen workaround...

jakeblue




msg:633818
 7:12 pm on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

check out digitalplacebo.com... they have a small business ecommerce thing with a paypal shopping cart and it's only 10 dollars a month, with hosting and all... I posted about it on another thread but I want some input... does anyone think this is any good?

Craig_F




msg:633819
 8:28 pm on Mar 21, 2002 (gmt 0)

Just thought I'd vote for Mal's system too. If you know a little html you should be able to get it to run. Also, mal's has forums where people are willing to help if you need it. For free it's pretty slick.

My clients also had no problem processing payments too, which surprised the -hit out of me.

Russ Dollinger




msg:633820
 5:24 pm on Mar 22, 2002 (gmt 0)

I am using 1shoppingcart.com.
It is a shopping cart service. All you do is load a specific link for each product on to your page. It takes you to their secure site.
They have a 30 day free trial.
Lots of extra bells and whistles.

JayCee




msg:633821
 5:30 pm on Mar 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

I've use 1shoppingcart.com = marketerschoice.com for over 2 years for one of my clients. Used to be unreliable (lot of downtime) and we almost switched, but they have their act together now and have added many features. Pretty inexpensive and lots of listserver and database features. Not as "Look 'N Feel" customizable as some.

Have also used bigstep.com, when it was free. It's still very good and even lets you upload your own HTML for total customization of cart and catalogs. But now mid priced. Great company though, very trustworthy and they do what they say they will.

These are both "dummies" types and both are 3rd party ASPs. Both support low-maintenance automatic online credit card processing and will help you get an account.

aaronjf




msg:633822
 8:36 pm on Mar 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

JakeBlue,

I went by and checked out digitalplacebo.com. It is definately simple and seemed to be a good deal as far as quick and simple carts seem to go. I have a couple of questions into them pertaining to tieing into existing sites, notification of orders, contractual oblications. I will post the answers here when I get them.

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