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Msg#: 150 posted 8:04 am on Oct 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

I've been asked to help with the marketing plan of a book that just came out.

My first thought was to head over to Amazon and list it there. However, it's already listed, yet it's ranking at the bottom for its title!

Does anyone know who powers amazon? How they rank? How to rank for keywords within their database?

Any suggestions appreciated.




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Msg#: 150 posted 6:03 pm on Oct 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

Grrr...I'm lost in Amazonland. Can't make sense of them at all, how to sell books, how to get books to rank well.

Does anyone know anything at all about this? Or where I can find more info? Their help pages weren't so helpful to me.



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Msg#: 150 posted 6:08 pm on Oct 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

ummmm....I think it's Altavista. :o


The primary thrust of the development process involved integrating AltaVista search technology with Amazon.coms own information repositories. Amazon.com captures data from a variety of places, such as book distributors, book publishers, and content reviewers. That data is then reconciled and coalesced into a form that is indexed by the AltaVista software. The system uses a combination of full text retrieval and fielded text retrieval, creating a set of indexes tuned for the current content on the site.


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Msg#: 150 posted 6:13 pm on Oct 10, 2001 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure but think part of their internal algo is based on sales of the book - the more sales the higher you rank.


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Msg#: 150 posted 8:03 pm on Oct 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

One technique you might try is finding readers of similar books, contacting them through the reviewer profiles and sending them free copies of the book.

This has been done numerous times and it often generates tons of reviews for a book that otherwise wouldn't garner much attention. This can, of course be a positive or negative depending on the quality of the book. It may or may not help improve the search results. Pick Top 1000 reviewers because they are more likely to actally write a read the book and write a review. Get the author to sign the copies, maybe even send the email message from his or her account to the potential reviewers.

An example would be "17 Lies That Are Holding You Back & the Truth That Will Set You Free" by Steve Chandler. They sent out numerous copies, pulled in 60 reviews and managed to keep a 4.5 star rating.


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Msg#: 150 posted 2:03 am on Oct 22, 2001 (gmt 0)

So they're using Altavista to gather results, and rank according to a combination of "sales" and reviews?

Apart from sending out free copies, is there a way to optimize the code? Or is the best way to try to get people to review the book?

Thanks for you help msgraph, skibum and oilman, I really appreciate it!

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