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"Revisit" meta tag and other dinosaurs
Are they all useless?
Monkscuba




msg:578626
 8:52 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I realise it has all been said before, but just to check the lastest Meta tag news..

Apart from Title (not actually a meta), Description, Keywords (sometimes) and maybe Robots is there anything else worth having?

A local computer "expert" that we know swears that we need the Revisit tag, and it MUST read :

<meta name="revisit" content="30 days">

As far as I can tell from the site search, he is wrong.

 

requiem




msg:578627
 10:10 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

The only valid meta in the largest searchengines nowdays are decription, and it do not carry much weight.

Three, four years ago the correct metatags were highly important.

There is however some local, regional search engiens around that is using old technology.

The best thing you can do is to improve the visual content to keep your visitors and/or clients happy.

ritch_b




msg:578628
 10:18 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

A well formed title, description and keywords are all you really need to bother with and for an apparently increasing number of search engines, these won't necessarily count for much. The content of your pages however, will.

The revisit tag is quite redundent AFAIK - Googlebot will come back and revisit your site when it feels like it, not when you tell it to.

R.

tigger




msg:578629
 10:22 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yes I agree with ritch well formed title, description is a must with good content

engine




msg:578630
 10:58 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Once again, overuse has killed the value of the tag. The "local computer expert" is not up to date - why not suggest they read WebmasterWorld? ;-)

Controlling the frequency of re-visits is only in your hands to a certain extent.

By adding new content regulary, and raising the profile of the site, will enhance the possibilities of being regularly visited, particularly by Googlebot.

Paid inclusion is the other way of controlling revisits.

Monkscuba




msg:578631
 11:15 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Many thanks....

Should we then remove the revisit tag completely, lest some spider comes around and decides it's not time to visit us? Or is this tag just completely ignored by spiders? I guess taking it off would save a few k on the html also.

tigger




msg:578632
 11:28 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

it's ignored by spiders, I'd remove it

DaveN




msg:578633
 11:31 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Monkscuba, yes I would remove it, but i always leave in the

<TITLE>Keyword phrase and company</TITLE>

<META NAME="DESCRIPTION" CONTENT="same as title">
<META NAME="KEYWORDS" CONTENT="same as title">
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">
<META NAME="rating" CONTENT="general">
<META NAME="copyright" CONTENT="it's mine keep off">

Dave

ritch_b




msg:578634
 11:38 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">

Question - is that not the default for all search engines anyway, unless told otherwise?

R.

DaveN




msg:578635
 11:44 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

ritch_b,

yes it is but it reminds me which pages to i need to exclude if that makes sense,

everypage as <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="index,follow">

if i don't want google to to index it i Know i have to change that page and not rely on a robots.txt file that somebody else could page in my company

Dave

ritch_b




msg:578636
 11:54 am on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

Aah! :)

I see - good point too!

R.

g1smd




msg:578637
 9:52 pm on May 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would add a !DOCTYPE to the beginning, something like:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

The <title> is important.

You should define the Character encoding and the Content Language for the page, something like:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-gb">

I like to disable the IE toolbar thingy so next is:

<meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="no">

You need a description tag:

<meta name="Description" content="Nice site or page description goes here">

I still use Keywords although I know that very little uses them:

<meta name="Keywords" content="put all your keywords in a list">

I don't like the idea of smart tags, so bury it just in case the idea ever comes back:

<meta name="MSSmartTagsPreventParsing" content="TRUE">

The robots tag is added to pages that I don't want indexed or followed, but I know the default action is:

<meta name="robots" content="index,follow">

Hope that helps.

Jabzebedwa




msg:578638
 12:45 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I like to disable the IE toolbar thingy so next is:

<meta http-equiv="imagetoolbar" content="no">"

What exactly is the toolbar thingy that is disabled by this meta tag?

RonPK




msg:578639
 1:22 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Jabzebedwa, it's the toolbar IE6 displays when hovering over larger images.

Brad




msg:578640
 1:35 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

Don't throw out your meta-tags yet. You might want to read this.
[webmasterworld.com...]

gph




msg:578641
 1:42 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

There's yet another MS tag

<meta http-equiv="MSThemeCompatible" content="no" />

See the heading "Windows XP user interface support" on this page. Jabzebedwa see "Image toolbar" on the same page.

[msdn.microsoft.com...]

I couldn’t find a complete list of what page elements are affect by it.

g1smd




msg:578642
 1:57 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't want to go there today.

gph




msg:578643
 2:05 pm on May 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

LOL g1smd agreed. If MS keeps it up we'll either be making pages without style or meta tags will out weigh content :)

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