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Mozilla 1.3 Released
Brett_Tabke




msg:606449
 12:19 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Mozilla 1.3 (official stable build) what's new:
  • New Mail and Usenet spam filters.
  • New rich text editing controls.
  • Image auto sizing allows a user to toggle between full-sized images and images sized to fit the browser window.
  • Users can now "dynamically" switch profiles.
  • New type ahead auto fill in.
  • Mozilla 1.3 also includes fixes for performance, standards compliance and site compatibility.

Release notes:
[mozilla.org...]

 

EliteWeb




msg:606450
 12:31 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Downloading now for this Windows box.

The 'Image auto sizing allows a user to toggle between full-sized images and images sized to fit the browser window. ' is a feature in IE i've noticed recently. I dont really like it when it shrinks my pictures that im trying to view :)

Thanks for the headsup. Can't wait to check out their built in Spam filters!

4eyes




msg:606451
 1:18 am on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've been using the spam filters since 1.3a.

They work well, with very few false positives, once you have trained them a little.

I now jump between Mozilla and Phoenix as the mood takes me.

Namaste




msg:606452
 12:02 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

fliters weren't working too well the last time I checked...lets hope that is fixed now.

Too bad "multiple" startpages isn't an option in this Mozilla like it is in Netscape.

weesnich




msg:606453
 1:23 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

@Namaste
Check out tabextensions:
[white.sakura.ne.jp...]

Filtering requires some training - after feeding it with about 100 Spammessages I had already collected it is very accurate.

Further addons which might be interesting: enigmail (support pgp/gpg in mails), prefbar (quickaccess to some often needed features), UAbar (enter any useragent you like), RefSpoof (request a page with the referrer you want).

deucalion




msg:606454
 6:21 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

@Namaste:

Already and ever working!
Simply open the tabs you want as startup-page,
go to Preferences -> Navigator,
"Use current groupt" - there you go.

- deucalion [the ever-since-and-always-mozilla-user]

bird




msg:606455
 11:16 pm on Mar 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

Significant speedup with opening and closing windows on Linux. Been waiting for that quite a while!

nebuhost




msg:606456
 7:59 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nice... Mozilla is really worth a try for those who haven't yet.

bird




msg:606457
 2:53 pm on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately, drag'n'drop of links to a second window has developed a few quirks since 1.2. I'm still trying to figure out the exact behaviour...

HarryM




msg:606458
 5:12 pm on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Am I having a nightmare?

I have some XHTML transitional pages with simple nested divs. The first div contains a "float left" div for thumbnails, and a "float right" div for text. This div is then closed and a second div opened beneath which contains only thumbnails.

These pages have always worked in IE, and with a few tweaks have been made to work in all modern browsers including Netscape 6.1, 6.2, and 7, Opera 5 and 6, and Mozilla 1.2.

And now I have just installed Mozilla 1.3 - and guess what? The divs on these pages break, and other pages give some very odd renderings. Needless to say the pages validate.

Does anyone else get strange effects with Mozilla 1.3?

4eyes




msg:606459
 12:54 am on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

It won't let me go to www.altavista.com - just remains on the previous page.

There are a few other sites similarly affected - haven't got time to investigate why - but its a little strange.

weesnich




msg:606460
 8:44 am on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

t won't let me go to www.altavista.com

Works for me, I can not reproduce this.

However, as HarryM reported, his site is not displayed as intended.

Hester




msg:606461
 11:00 am on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

HarryM - great CSS rollover effects on your site.

Looking at the code, might this be the problem?

<!-- start page-header-0 include -->
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

I know if I include a comment at the top in IE6 it knocks it down into Quirks Mode. The XML line also does, as the DOCTYPE must be on line one. This can break a layout! Perhaps Mozilla now also switches modes?

indiechild




msg:606462
 12:08 pm on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)


I have some XHTML transitional pages with simple nested divs. The first div contains a "float left" div for thumbnails, and a "float right" div for text. This div is then closed and a second div opened beneath which contains only thumbnails.
...
And now I have just installed Mozilla 1.3 - and guess what? The divs on these pages break, and other pages give some very odd renderings. Needless to say the pages validate.

Does anyone else get strange effects with Mozilla 1.3?

Unfortunately I have experienced very similar and strange problems with Phoenix 0.5 and Mozilla 1.3/Win.

Specifically, it seems like these browsers are ignoring "float:clear" and continuing to float subsequent DIVs, hence breaking the page layout :(

It's strange because in every other browser it renders fine, and it's 100% W3C valid of course.

If anyone else is experiencing these problems, I'd be very interested to know. I've created a thread in the CSS forum where I've attempted to explain the problem: [webmasterworld.com...]

[edit] I've found the source of my problems, and fixed it (see above thread). I don't think it's really a browser bug, though I'm surprised all the other browsers have tolerated my incorrect coding so far.

[edited by: indiechild at 1:39 pm (utc) on Mar. 17, 2003]

Duckula




msg:606463
 12:17 pm on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

Does anyone else get strange effects with Mozilla 1.3?

Even from 1.3b (not 1.3a) I've been getting some regression errors. For example, the old CNN layout bug is back again, not often but I've seen it at least once.

And the nasty caching/compression/whatever bug that displays garbage when clicking on some links and gifs where a page should be is back too.

HarryM




msg:606464
 5:52 pm on Mar 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have tried removing the comment and XML statement as Hester suggested, but it had no effect. However adding "float:none;" and "clear:both;" to the misplaced div has cleared my nested-divs problem.

But this is definitely a workaround to a bug. The div is inheriting a float attribute when it shouldn't be.

But I've still got other problems that I didn't have in Moz 1.2. Some of my rollover effects don't work as intended. And on the home page some links don't work at all.

What is it with browser development? One step forward and two steps back. :(

HarryM




msg:606465
 5:37 pm on Mar 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

Ref my rendering problem with Moz 1.3 mentioned earlier in this thread.

I have been emailed by someone (who I presume is not a member of Webmaster World) who maintains that Mozilla 1.3 is correctly rendering nested divs such as mine, and it is the other browsers that are buggy.

Quoting an example in his email:


div style="position: relative" id="one">
<div style="float:left; height: 100px" id="left" />
<div style="float:right; height: 100px" id="right" />
</div>
<div style="position: relative" id="two" />

The _correct_ (per CSS) rendering of this is that the div with id="one" has a height of "0", the div with id="two" starts right where the one with id="one" ends, and the floats overlap it.

Mozilla prior to 1.0 would incorrectly make the div with id="one" 100px tall, based on its contents.

I maintain that div "one" encloses divs "left" and "right" and therefore it's height should expand to theirs.

Apart from Moz 1.3 all other browsers I have tested render it this way, although Opera has a couple of problems working out the heights.

Has anyone any views?

I can sticky mail the page to look at to see the incorrect rendering.

HarryM




msg:606466
 12:10 am on Mar 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

I have been contacted again by "Boris" who has directed me to the relevant CSS documentation.

This is really a CSS issue, so I am raising it in that forum to get other opinions.

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