Froggyman
msg:561688 | 1:55 pm on Mar 5, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I have always used [netmechanic.com...] They were just taken over and their free service has been cut back a little. It will only validate 25 links per page. Other than that it's pretty good. It will allow you to downside .gif & .jpeg graphics.
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tedster
msg:561689 | 7:13 pm on Mar 5, 2001 (gmt 0) |
Anybrowser.com [anybrowser.com] offers two free validators, one for HTML 3.2 and one for strict HTML 4.0. I've been using the onboard validator with Homesite. Since I usually write my code in Homesite, it's right at hand. It's extremely configurable, which I appreciate very much -- sometimes I'm not trying for totally strict code but just editing a buggy page for someone just to get it to work. Homesite does tend to suffer from cascading errors, especially with some simple things like unclosed quotes, but to be fair, I'm using an older version. Recent releases may be improved. I'm curious about this freeware, arachnophilia [arachnoid.com]. I have a friend who swears by it. It's a lot more than a validator -- they call it a "website workshop" and it has a huge features list including spell check, browser integration for 6 browsers, FTP client, on and on. Amazing for freeware. Is anyone using it?
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tedster
msg:561690 | 8:56 am on Mar 6, 2001 (gmt 0) |
One feature of HTMLtidy is that it can help make the conversion to XHTML. I'm not sure I can deal with running from the command line, but there seem to be some third party GUI's out there if the going gets too rough.
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Brett_Tabke
msg:561691 | 10:01 am on Mar 6, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I have tried arachnophili now for a whole hour. It looks interesting. I always liked those "beautify code" options. Althought I am still investigating, it is pretty impressive for free ware. I think the best thing about the produce is the wizards that do tables and frames. That could be a real help and I think I will be using that option in the future for "no brainer" development to save all that redundant typing. The validator/analyzer is rather rudimentary, but could be useful. >Anybrowser They use WebLint and the actual W3C validator.
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Brett_Tabke
msg:561692 | 10:07 am on Mar 6, 2001 (gmt 0) |
btw: the WDG validator and A Real Validator are written by the same author (Liam Quinn). I also forgot about Delorie.coms Web Page Purifier:
[delorie.com]
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Xoc
msg:561693 | 9:35 pm on Mar 6, 2001 (gmt 0) |
I also have a validator for XML/XHTML on my site at [xoc.net...] . It won't spider, though, and doesn't do HTML.
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Brett_Tabke
msg:561694 | 5:23 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
With the coming rumored switch of AOL to Netscape, validation is more important than ever. Are you ready?
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madcat
msg:561695 | 5:37 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I thought everyone was using the W3C validator! Sorry Brett- Would you mind elaborating just a tad on what the transition will mean exactly?
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keyplyr
msg:561696 | 6:09 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Tedster > arachnophilia... Is anyone using it? Arachnophilia has been my html editor for close to a year. It's a great tool. I code by hand so I haven't utilized many of the features, but I do use the spellcheck, find/replace, search and the syntax checker. I also like the way it displays the mark-up; real easy to discriminate page divisions, tables etc. Free is also a very good price!
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rmjvol
msg:561697 | 6:35 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
| arachnophilia... Is anyone using it? |
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I've used arachnophilia for about a year. You get a lot for a reasonable price. Just downloaded the new Java version but have not tried it yet. BTW, anyone try out that new "SuperHay Validator" - they say cows can really crank out some great code with it.
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papabaer
msg:561698 | 7:23 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Homesite v.5 + Tidy (set to XHTML) - it almost makes it impossible to write invalid code.... I have dug into Tidy's config files and set it up to "pretty-up" the pages and balance the whitespace. The result is very neat (& pretty!) code that is a breeze to go back and edit any time I get the hankerin' ... Homesite's Validator and Opera's - I'm good to go! XHTML+CSS+VALIDATED CODE=Peace of Mind! :)
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Josk
msg:561699 | 9:18 am on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
There's also the Java version of Tidy -- JTidy. I have a bugbear about laying out html (it makes life easier later) even if it is computer generated. JTidy (and possibly Tidy) have one or to slight flaws/features in that they're quite picky...
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tedster
msg:561700 | 12:56 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Homesite's on board validator used to be CSE. Is that still the case in Homesite 5? Also, CSE is powerful, but it isn't a true SGML parser - so it can miss errors and report errors that aren't really there. The new release probably improves on this.
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awcabot
msg:561701 | 1:04 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I am happy with BBEdit's (Mac) HTML verification utility as well as it's text colorings. However I find it lacking in it's HTML beautify (I find it goes a bit overboard with putting every single tag on a separate line) and no CSS verification.
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pcguru333
msg:561702 | 2:53 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I am using HTMLKit and it has a validator, converts to XHTML and suggests CSS. It is Freeware and I have liked it better than any other editor to date. I don't know how the vaildator compares to others but the interface and options are great (especially for freeware)
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pageoneresults
msg:561703 | 4:21 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
I use the W3C validation tool exclusively. I figure if you can validate at the W3C, you can validate anywhere! And since they are the authority... I also use NN4.7. ;)
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tbear
msg:561704 | 4:37 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
>freeware, arachnophilia Ahem, colegas. Arachnophilia is actually 'careware', and after lurking here a couple of months I'd say you all qualify.
Seriously though, I've used Arach for about 3 or 4 years now, in fact that and a squeaky new netscape com 3 helped me begin understanding html. Now I'm looking for a way to finish understanding it.
Really a very useful tool with many possibilities which are not exploited by me, sadly. The arachnoid website I found quite interesting, at times humourous, and with info about the prog.
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Brett_Tabke
msg:561705 | 8:39 pm on Mar 28, 2002 (gmt 0) |
Just about all our sites are dyanamic or embedded lanugages like php. That leaves some pretty special considerations when it comes to validation. I use Opera with is's handy shift-ctrl-v key to validate (url changed to a local version of the sew validator). I temporarily switch the "view source" program to point at CSE. So a control-f3 sends the source to cse and a f6 validates it. (umm, cse is awesome. I wish they had an affiliate program)
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