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Frame alternatives...
A solution for newer browsers?

 11:24 am on Feb 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

Hi all

After pondering how I could improve one of my frame based sites in the SE rankings, I came up with a prototype method of ridding frames without getting rid of the visual effect. It should work on IE3+ and N6 but I could be wrong.


Please take a look and see what you think...



 2:15 pm on Feb 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

That is interesting. You can do similar with css positioning to a degree.

oh wait, you are. (I was thinking it was all js, but it is a combo thing). ok cool.


 5:41 pm on Feb 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

Good brainstorm. The concept is excellent.

I'm getting javascript errors in NN4.7 you might want to checkout to fine tune your idea -- repeated instances of "document.body has no properties".


 6:59 pm on Feb 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

That is very innovative!


 8:07 pm on Feb 8, 2001 (gmt 0)

Very cool! (I think I may like that better than the sliding menus I tinkered with so much... :( )

Interesting side effect in IE 5/Mac... when you click on the links to change pages, the text area temporarily fills with repeated navigationb ars, before the text pops in to view. (doesn't work at all in NN 4.7/Mac... text area is a giant black hole)

If you fine tune it so it's more cross browser/platform compatible, I'd love to use it.


 3:13 pm on Feb 9, 2001 (gmt 0)

OK - I've just uploaded a new version with better browser detection. At the moment I'm using an alert on incapable browsers, but on a real site I would probably redirect to pages with a more traditional system of navigation (maybe even frames).

tedster: The problem is that only IE4+ and Gecko derivatives (ie N6) can do fixed backgrounds.

mivox: that's strange with IE5 for the Mac. It doesn't sound like there's alot that can be done about that though (probably just a glitch) :( I think the text problem on NN4.7 is due to my use of CSS (background-color : transparent;) - it's no biggie, but not worth fixing since old Netscapes can't do the fixed background anyway.

The new pages are at:

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