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Mozilla 1.1Alpha out
6.0 by Xmas?
Josk




msg:563907
 8:33 am on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Um, yet another set of improvements. Just like Microsoft, but without paying $$ and all the security holes...

[mozilla.org...] is the place...

 

Brett_Tabke




msg:563908
 1:30 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

What's new: [mozilla.org]

Download Manager has been enabled (with many improvements) for the 1.1 Alph arelease.
Mozilla now takes advantage of Quartz rendering for users of Mac OS X 10.1.5
Viewing HTML mail messages as plain text is new.
Quote original message has been implemented for 1.1a
We have new layout performance enhancements targeted at DHTML.
There have also been performance enhancements for the application startup speed.
Viewsource for MathML and view source for selections have been implemented.
Mozilla now has support for the display of XBM images.
Autocomplete in the addressbar has an improved sort order.
Browser tabs now close left to right (they used to close right to left).
The cross-plaform File Picker now has a button for creating a new directory.
Redundant backup of preferences files has been implemented in 1.1 Alpha.
Mozilla's drag and drop support has been greatly improved.
Image blocking for Mail & News has been implemented.

Knowles




msg:563909
 3:36 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Sounds nice just wish I knew they where fixing to do this! I just redownload 1.0 due to a system crash. I will have to stick with 1.0 for awhile. It takes to long to download on a dail up. But then again some of those features I do really need!

HyperGeek




msg:563910
 4:38 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

Knowles,

Expect the updates to be almost on a weekly basis for at least the first three weeks of release.

These guys actually care about their software - so they'll be anal rententive about releasing better versions - and doing so often.

Knowles




msg:563911
 5:01 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

I know they are I had 1.0 since the second day it was out. But my comp died when I was making some changes to partions and I had to reformat loosing everything. So I download 1.0 again yesterday while at work. Now today they release 1.1 if only I had waited another day!

jatar_k




msg:563912
 5:03 pm on Jun 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

it looks like the start up speed is up quite a bit, I will have to see how it works out. I have been very impressed with 1.0 so far. I only had one problem with it. I see some slight issues when running java but it doesn't seem too serious just once in a while. I had it crash and take everything with it once and erase my history but that is the only event I have had.

prowsej




msg:563913
 3:57 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

This is 1.1 alpha. It's not a 'final' release the way 1.0 is. 1.1 will be in 'final' form in about 3 months. By Christmas, they'll be on about 1.3

EliteWeb




msg:563914
 3:59 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Good to see so many new features added to the program within a few days of the beta release. Im not going to go with the alpha release yet because i'm too lazy to reinstall this morning, but if it wern't then I'd do it - trust me (:

PsychoTekk




msg:563915
 4:22 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

what annoys me most about mozilla and netscape is that
it happens sooo often that a page is loaded but without
its extern stylesheet and/or its extern javascript....
this never happens to me in msie
even when i hit the reload button the files are not loaded
...sometimes this even happens with imagefiles :(
<added>
when i load the img/css/js files only, mozilla keeps showing me
"<html><body></body></html>" as its content.
i have to hit the reload button several times until the file
is loaded as it should be.
i had this problem in all mozilla / netscape versions
does anybody know what the problem could be?

Knowles




msg:563916
 5:39 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

Ive been having the same problem on one of my sites with Mozilla 1.0 and IE 6.0, mine is from a poor coding choice I have made on the site but not had a chance to fix. I am not so sure the issue your having is not related to the same sort of thing.

PsychoTekk




msg:563917
 6:04 pm on Jun 13, 2002 (gmt 0)

poor coding choice

like what? a logic or a semantic misstake?
the page i'm talkin about is mostly w3c valid, the
only exception is done because of the page's purpose
and i don't think that's why external files won't be loaded?
although most visitors use msie i would like to solve
this problem...

Purple Martin




msg:563918
 12:25 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

> a page is loaded but without
its extern stylesheet and/or its extern javascript....

I've experienced this frustration many times when tweaking code in .js files. NS just doesn't realise that there's a newer version of the file to use. I have to manually clear the cache to get it to use the latest file. I dunno if this is a "bug" or a "feature" but it sure bugs me :(

Knowles




msg:563919
 1:29 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mine was because of a bad template design I made. It insurted code into the top of the page above <html> so it would not always recognize the rel link to the style sheet. I took it out and have not had the problem since. Have you had anyone look at the site to make sure it happens to them as well? And in different browers to isolate it to mozilla?

Isnt there a preference you can add to make it not cache pages? I thought I saw one but I cant remember now and I cant get it to open I think I killed it earlier!

mbauser2




msg:563920
 1:32 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)


what annoys me most about mozilla and netscape is that
it happens sooo often that a page is loaded but without
its extern stylesheet and/or its extern javascript....

Is that happening on your sites, or somebody elses? It sounds a lot like a MIME problem some people have reported: If the web server isn't flagging stylesheets with the right Content Type (text/css), Mozilla in Standards Compliance Mode will ignore the stylesheet. I haven't heard any complaints about Javascript, but I could believe it.

(For the record, all the HTTP specifications say the Content-Type header is the final arbiter of a file's type. MSIE breaks spec by choosing its file extension mappings over the server header's, so a lot of MSIE-influenced webmasters never set the right media type on their stylesheets.)

papabaer




msg:563921
 2:02 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mozilla expects the correct MIME type before it will recognize external style sheets. If your site does not appear to be importing the referenced style sheet(s), and is hosted on an Apache server, you may need to add the following to your .htaccess file:

AddType text/css css

If yo udo not have an .htaccess file, you can create one from any text editor. Just open a new file and type in AddType text/css css and save the file as .htaccess - Then upload the file using binary mode (some ftp programs will do so automatically) to your root directory where your main index page resides.

I had to do this with one of my own sites. after which Mozilla (as per Web Standards) was finally able to read the external style sheets.

papabaer




msg:563922
 2:03 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mozilla expects the correct MIME type before it will recognize external style sheets. If your site does not appear to be importing the referenced style sheet(s), and is hosted on an Apache server, you may need to add the following to your .htaccess file: AddType text/css css If yo udo not have an .htaccess file, you can create one from any text editor. Just open a new file and type in AddType text/css css and save the file as .htaccess - Then upload the file using binary mode (some ftp programs will do so automatically) to your root directory where your main index page resides. I had to do this with one of my own sites. after which Mozilla (as per Web Standards) was finally able to read the external style sheets.

Knowles




msg:563923
 2:30 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Thanks papabaer for the info. I might just put that in since I am not sure what mime types they have set up. I guess I could ask the host. But I honestly think mine was due to the bad coding cause it even did it in IE and since I have taken it out it doesnt do it.

PsychoTekk




msg:563924
 7:14 am on Jun 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

Mine was because of a bad template design I made. It insurted code into the top of the page above <html> so it would not
always recognize the rel link to the style sheet. I took it out and have not had the problem since. Have you had anyone look
at the site to make sure it happens to them as well? And in different browers to isolate it to mozilla?

yup, tested it on several other computers, when using mozilla or netscape it's 50% likeliness that it's not
loaded properly. opera and msie work fine.
It sounds a lot like a MIME problem...

that's how the htmlfiles look like: (header section)
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="stylesheet/general.css">
<script language="JavaScript" src="javascript/data.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
and this is the header response of the server:

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:01:09 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_x-httpd-php4_script
Vary: Host
Last-Modified: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:49:48 GMT
ETag: "777162-7d9-3d084e9c"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 2009
Content-Type: text/css

HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:01:03 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_x-httpd-php4_script
Vary: Host
Last-Modified: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:50:47 GMT
ETag: "18615ae-1b2d-3d086af7"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 6957
Content-Type: application/x-javascript

...concerning js and css files, i'm not too sure whether it's only my site, but it certainly happens
on my site regularly
the problem with the images does not appear that often and it even happened to me on the mozilla site

at first i thought the problem about the js fiels was that they generate code between 15 and 25kb of code,
but after i replaced some "document.writeln" with "document.write" the problem was solved...
well, leaving the other problem and i just can't figure out what's wrong

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