| 8:08 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
crimson editor is pretty good, it's freeware, it works.
Filezilla is excellent, no need to switch, you won't find a better free one in my opinion. Just make sure you have a recent version, they are currently on I believe 2.2.16
Version 3.0 is in testing currently.
| 8:24 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
HTML-Kit is another one to checkout:
You can't beat FileZilla for a simple FTP client, IMHO.
| 8:33 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for reminding me of Crimson editor. I had used it before. But does it have a wysiwyg viewer or any kind of design viewer? Not that I need, but it's good to have.
Also, I know this is not the graphics design forum, but any suggestions for a free graphics editor?
| 8:36 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
| 9:09 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
No text editor has wysiwyg mode, that's what makes it a text editor and not Dreamweaver or whatever, however crimson editor has an internal IE viewer, ctrl+b will show the page in IE, not useful for real sites running on your webserver locally, but good for test pages.
Just load the page in different browsers and refresh them with every change.
NVU is discussed in wysiwyg context, but their 1.0 is completely unuseable in its current release state, it is not a 1.0 product, its errors put it at alpha stage as far as I'm concerned. Don't use it for production purposes, it rewrites and ruins files.
| 9:14 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|No text editor has wysiwyg mode, |
Ok. So is there any wysiwyg web editor?
| 9:18 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Perhaps an open Source package, like Nvu (pronounced N-view - for new view: [Nvu.com]) would be worth a peek.
| 9:29 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I just tested Nvu about a month back, and I agree with 2by4 above. It's not something I want to use in production. I think it's more for a hobbyist as it currently stands.
I am definitely happy with a text editor (Homesite) plus several open browsers. Homesite isn't free, of course, but I think any html editor that offered color coding would be pretty good.
| 9:38 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I would go well beyond what tedster says here, not only is NVU not good for developers, it's not good for anything web related. It moves your data around, it redoes php scripting [one example: it takes the initial <?php at the start of the page and moves it down into the <head> tag, this of course destroys any prepage php processing, stuff that needs to happen before headers are sent that is], it alters the files, it damages the physical file, I literally could not open a file I saved in NVU in another text editor, I'd never seen anything like it in my life.
I've never seen bugs as serious as this on any ready for prime type editor.
I love open source, and support it actively, but NVU is just not ready, I really wish they'd dropped the version number to something that more accurately reflects its current level of functionality, I'd say 0.1 or 0.2 would be more accurate. Plus a strong warning on installation that the product is not ready for real production use.
It also messes up css stuff by the way, check the nvu forums, I think those guys are in a state of self delusion about this product or something, hard to say what the problem is.
Do not ever open up any file with nvu that you have not made a backup copy first, you may regret it.
| 10:12 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Netscape's 3.X browser versions all contained a WSYWIG html editor. I used it for years very happily, as I had to for a client who created all his pages in it ... it even had a an FTP upload as part of it.
Those older versions can still be downloaded at Netscape ... if you have trouble finding it, sticky me and I will dig it up ...
I am also a Dreamweaver fan/user, and over the years, when clients or friends wanted a free editor, I pointed them to Netscape ... I found that for the most part, pages edited in Netscape were perfectly compatible with Dreamweaver.
Hope that helps.
| 10:27 pm on Oct 10, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I had tried EditPad some time ago, and had thought it looked a bit amateurish at the time.
Based on a post on a forum (can't remember where) that I read earlier today, I have just downloaded PSPad and like that a lot more: [pspad.com...]
[edited by: encyclo at 12:24 am (utc) on Oct. 11, 2005]
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| 12:32 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Netscape's 3.X browser versions all contained a WSYWIG html editor. I used it for years very happily, as I had to for a client who created all his pages in it ... it even had a an FTP upload as part of it. |
Yes, Netscape's integrated HTML editor was (is) a very simple program which produces surprisingly robust HTML, albeit very antiquated now (no CSS at all, tables and font tags only). The editor carried on more or less unchanged through NN4 and into the Mozilla suite. The NVU program was born out of the Mozilla editor, but supposedly improved, using CSS and XHTML. I agree with the others in that I only tried it once, but it crashed immediately on startup and I never went any further. :)
However the original Mozilla suite editor may be a suitable candidate - again the markup is old-fashioned but solid, and it is a great deal more stable than NVU.
Note that the Mozilla suite is now officially discontinued (replaced by Firefox, Thunderbird and NVU), but it is still supported by mozilla.org and there is an independent project wanting to continue development.
| 1:57 am on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I remember way back when, I used to use AOLPRess (I think that was the name) to publish to my free AOL website.
I loved that program. :-)
| 4:21 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Have anybody experience with Amaya - the editor from W3?
| 5:24 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Amaya isn't very good.
| 5:48 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Well I know we're talking freeware but Macromedia's Homesite is still the best HTML editor I have found. If you've got Flash MX, it's already on the CD, but don't know if it comes with DW alone. It's not WYSIWYG, but it has robust search/replace functions, internal validators, HTML Tidy, and tons more.
| 8:54 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
UltraEdit32 is an excellent general purpose editor, with (X)HTML and CSS syntax highlighting.
WinSCP3 is a good freeware SFTP and SCP client for Windows. Having read the comments above, I must compare it with FileZilla.
| 9:03 pm on Oct 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
>> I remember way back when, I used to use AOLPRess <<
Anyone remember Compuserve Homepage Wizard too? Yeeeesh!