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Netscape 8 disables xml rendering in IE
tedster

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Msg#: 10287 posted 11:30 pm on May 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been seeing some scattered and mixed reports about Netscape 8. What I read is that installing Netscape 8 may create a registry change that disables some of IE's functionality - so instead of being able to render XML (including RSS pages), IE shows viewers a blank screen.

Some say NN8 definitely does this, others say they cannot reproduce the problem. As I said, I've only been reading about this on forums, blogs and newsgroups - nothing official - and I'm wondering any of our members have run into this problem.

 

encyclo

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Msg#: 10287 posted 12:41 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

The only place I've seen a report (and fix) about this is right here:

[webmasterworld.com...]

It would be interesting to see exactly what is causing the bug...

tedster

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Msg#: 10287 posted 3:49 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

To quote from kenbodensteiner's fix in that thread:

OK to fix this issue uninstall Netscape and then

Hit START->RUN

Type: regedit

Hit ENTER

Navigate to the following:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Plugins\Extension

Highlight and right-click the node titled "xml" and select delete.

Restart your browser and you should be good-to-go.

Good to go unless you re-install Netscape 8, that is. Apparently the new browser messes with the Windows registry and will over-write the above change if you leave it installed.

What is going on here? I understand that AOL outsourced the development of Netscape 8 to a third party. This does not look good very for them, does it?

growingdigital

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Msg#: 10287 posted 4:18 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

The good news is this should affect less than 10 people world wide ;)

limitup

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Msg#: 10287 posted 4:34 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

What's Netscape?

Hester

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Msg#: 10287 posted 8:00 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

But IE doesn't render XML anyway - it just shows the tree.

2by4

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Msg#: 10287 posted 8:09 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

"I understand that AOL outsourced the development of Netscape 8 to a third party."

AOL is on the block, time warner is dumping the division from what I read, they've been itching to get that albatross off their necks since they fired all the aol management.

So look for aol in turn to start dumping all unnecessary expenses, they already stopped winamp development, I don't know why they keep releasing Netscape versions, it's getting silly. And if it's true the stuff was outsourced, ouch, no wonder bugs and problems happened, I'd guess it's only a matter of months before this stuff is a memory.

XMLMania

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Msg#: 10287 posted 9:51 am on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

But IE doesn't render XML anyway - it just shows the tree.

Yeah it shows the XML doc tree when no style sheet is declared, it will display a transformation if a XSL file is specified.

bcolflesh

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Msg#: 10287 posted 1:05 pm on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hmmm - I can confirm this issue w/ Win 2K Pro, IE 6.0.2800.1106 SP1 Q823353, and Netscape 8.0.1 - IE is blank, Netscape show the tree if no stylesheet is associated.

StupidScript

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Msg#: 10287 posted 4:37 pm on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is this a problem?

Ya installed the darn thing ... use it! It's not anything MS didn't do, back in the day ...

[Only slightly facaetious.]

jetnovo

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Msg#: 10287 posted 9:40 pm on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep - I installed NS8 last week and just tried now viewing an XML in IE - and yes, I just got a blank page.

tedster

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Msg#: 10287 posted 11:46 pm on May 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you read various xml/xslt feeds in IE this is a real problem. Either you can't use NN8 on the same machine, or you must change your RSS browsing habits, or you must go through the song and dance above, over and over and over again.

I don't think this was an intentional "salvo" from Netscape against IE, just an unintended consequence of their dual rendering engines approach most likely. We'll see how long it takes them to get it all sorted. You can bet MS has already been in touch with AOL ;)

tedster

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Msg#: 10287 posted 12:17 am on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

OK - the story hit eWeek now, and AOL confirms it's accurate.

America Online on Thursday confirmed that a bug in its new Netscape 8
Web browser was breaking certain XML configurations in Microsoft's IE.

eWeek Story [eweek.com]

That story also states that the news "broke" on the IE Weblog (that was on May 25) but WebmasterWorld members were wrestling with it as early as May 20. At any rate, according to the article, Netscape/AOL is readying a patch. I'll bet they are!

Sobriquet

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Msg#: 10287 posted 12:45 am on May 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

What's Netscape?

LOL... when i started my career a lot of years ago, we used to ask What is Internet Explorer? Why people use it when we have netscape?

If NN8 messes with registry it would get even more unpopular now.
Well I always downloaded NN whenever it came up with a release in order to keep a check at teh sites I make and how they look in NN. This time, I wont download it. I dont want to mess up ... :)

Do I signout as - lol.. Happy IE User!?!

ergophobe

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Msg#: 10287 posted 5:19 pm on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)


What's Netscape

Acutally, there a pretty good article [en.wikipedia.org] on it in the Wkikpedia. It's sort of metaphoric, but correct on most of the details.

tedster

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Msg#: 10287 posted 5:48 pm on May 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

The relevance of Netscape 8, for now at least, is how well the Netscape ISP service is taking hold - I'm guessing their new ISP customers will be force-fed the browser.

Anyone heard anything recent about the Netscape ISP service? The TV ad campagin is still rolling here in New England.

tedster

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Msg#: 10287 posted 4:52 am on Jun 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Netscape 8 now has released a patch in the 8.02 version of the browser - it no longer creates a conflict with IE's xml rendering. Interesting the way the spin war continues.

AOL spokesman Andrew Weinstein said that while fixing the XML rendering problem, Netscape came across the probable cause: Faulty documentation on IE provided by Microsoft. A Microsoft representative declined to comment.

[news.zdnet.com...]


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