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is it reliable.
Rolozo




msg:551011
 9:05 am on Sep 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I m new to AP world.
ClickBank is reliable to go with ....?
What is the right procedure to follow to earn good money ...?

 

Perfiliate




msg:551012
 11:52 am on Sep 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi

Its got to be the most basic affiliate reporting area I have ever seen but it doesnt stop a lot of people using them. I have used them myself when they have had something relevant and so far have been paid what I was owed on time.

My doubts would be over the integrity of the tracking in the face of all the ad blocking software. Their own tracking contains things which I think imo would flag up to a lot of ad blocking but i have not tested this so its just my theory based on other findings.

All in all I would say if they have a program you really like then give them a whirl and you will get paid for what they track - if you have a more mainstream alternative I would use them instead.

Mal

Rolozo




msg:551013
 7:05 pm on Sep 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

but i want to ask is there any tough thing to sort out ....
what i m understanding is that
1)goto clickbank
2) goto category like Money
3)ClickBank will display some programs on several pages....
4)then select any program on the first page and signup
5)Put link on your website and keep tracking
6)THE END .....
Am i missing something ....?
Plz guide me about that ..
Thank You.

iProgram




msg:551014
 2:57 pm on Sep 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do not like cb. Some adware killer product will display all your cookies and ask for payment to remove these cookie. Some "service" says you can download free software, free movies, free musics online as long as you pay them $$. But indeed they are selling some p2p software. If your affiliate life is based on promoting these products, it will be an unreliable life (you can find more stories about this by searching dcmoviez + clickbank).

PS. If you choose products carefully, cb will be a good network.

Beagle




msg:551015
 6:26 pm on Sep 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

iProgram, just to be sure I'm understanding your post... Are you saying that CB itself is okay and it's "just" some of the merchants that are scummy, or that using CB in any way will expose your site visitors to the software, etc., you mention? I've been looking at some of the products CB offers and while most of them would be useless to my particular audience, there are some that could be a good match. But I would never knowingly expose my visitors to the stuff you're talking about, so if that's involved I'll take CB off my "possibilities" list.

Thanks.

luke175




msg:551016
 12:04 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been using CB for 3 years and whether you are owed $50 or $5000 they always pay ontime.

They are the only affiliate program I really trust anymore.

Their layout is simple but it does what it says.

KeywordWizard




msg:551017
 2:42 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm a CB user and I've had some really large cheques, with no problems. For a few years I didn't deal with CB at all, but in the last year I've made some very good money using them. You have nothing to worry about.

Use the product gravity to help you determine which products are selling and how recently they have been sold. Judging product gravity is what I use when looking for new products to market.

Also, a lot of products have crappy homepages. Buy some domains, and make your own landing pages. Then link directly to the CB ordering page. By-pass the merchant page all together.

iProgram




msg:551018
 4:00 am on Sep 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

iProgram, just to be sure I'm understanding your post... Are you saying that CB itself is okay and it's "just" some of the merchants that are scummy, or that using CB in any way will expose your site visitors to the software, etc., you mention?

Exactly. Those p2p merchants are not scummy in their home country (you are unable to know where are they from, btw) but you will run a risk by promoting their products on your website. For example, some company will file DMCA to google to remove your site from G index because you are listing a product which is infringing their copyright material.

Again, CB is a good network if you choose the right products becuase the common commission rate is larger than other networks.

shamai




msg:551019
 12:39 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Very Simple

Click Bank have some great products but...
you have to check out for a few things

1. gravity
2. Landing page - create your own ( or even better a whole new website and promote a few of those products
( like a review site) save tons on PPC engines
3. stay away from music and download software products
stick to good e-books ( look on review sites or onlinemoneyscams review sites for the good ones ) even if those review sites are promoting those products and getting affilates cut. these guys know what they are promoting buy the product and follow their lead there is room for everybody, remember we are in the win win game.
4. use clickbank affilate alert program. the starters version is free and it tells you of new product but more then that it gives you a report of how that product is doing in the last 3 to 6 months is it dead or alive
5. the direct adwords to landing page scheme is begining to become to saturated and slowing down
i would invest NOW in staring to offer FREE newsletter and getting an opt-in list which is crucial (in 9 month of hard work you can get 10,000 e-mails - yes a little hard work payes off - dont buy lists - its border line SPAM - i know what people think but in my eyes its still borderline spam )
and then just promote to your opt-ins good solid money making e-books they will buy from you

To Your Success

AusDaddy




msg:551020
 11:25 am on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Shamai,
Thanks for the advice. I just joined up to Clickbank the other day and after looking thru their products thought they weren't worth the effort, but after your report, I think I'll look again.

One more question though, how do you suggest we get people to opt in to a mailing list? Is adwords (or similiar) ad for the product (say how to be "rich in 24 hours for dummies" ebook), and then a link that says something like "Not sure you want to buy this yet click here to get added to free email list that will show other cool ways to get rich quick", a reasonable approach?

shamai




msg:551021
 7:26 pm on Sep 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Aus daddy

personally i dont think a link will do it

For opt-in you must use the "give then ask" method
and if there is no real value in your newsletter
they would not opt-in

a few suggestions

1. Offer a free e-book on a subject your promoting
even if it is a old or crappy one hype it up and offer it, some oldies are a great hit try searching on Google for free e-books, there is some sites that offer downloading free e-books
2. try free Audio class or seminar - there are those floating around
3. Free tools - like goodwords or web anylizer ( they give it free to there affilates
4. or special reports that you download on a variety of topics

i would start listing internet sites but it would take to long

anyhow a news letter is either:

when you sold them something good and they trust you
or when you gave a freebie and they see your trying to help them.

note: when you give a freebie please sound excited about your freebie

whatever you do, make it your own
meaning your own web site or sales letter
harvest those opt-ins and then sell them products
on the back end

thats what it is all about

to your success

thegreatpretender




msg:551022
 7:22 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am just curious about their refund policy. Anyone can purchase a product then after downloading the stuff, he can get his money back later by just filling a simple form from cb website.

Are you guys not encountering many refunds from your cb sales? Did this not affect your overall cb income?

Thanks

AusDaddy




msg:551023
 11:15 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Shamai,
Thanks for the great insight. It never ceases to amaze me how helpful people are here.

Thanks again.

Rolozo




msg:551024
 4:09 pm on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

what is the key to find right affliatee.

ember




msg:551025
 3:04 pm on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I may be on the wrong end of this, but we sell ebooks on our site and would like to bump sales up a bit and are considering offering them on ClickBank to generate some affiliate sales. I know it all depends on how many affiliates we get, does CB attract a lot of them? Does anyone have experience with them from the merchant side?

shamai




msg:551026
 9:40 pm on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

ember

clickbank does atract alot of affilates
many of them are like me making money on e-books
many are just broader affilates selling what ever they could get their hands on.

Click bank has a system that envolves a score system
for new merchants every week there are more then 25 new e-books out there on click bank they give them a trial period of 4-6 months then they either climb the ladder or they find themselves in the bin.

clickbank will not tell you what is their system of scoring but, you can do the following to attract merchants.

set your price right

1. $29.95 will sell better then $19.95 - its there in the middle not cheap but not expansive
if you have a serious a long e-book try jumping to
37.95

2. then give above 50% ( 60 - 75% [clickbanks max])
3. target two categories so it can score on both
4. have a link to a special page for affilates
explaining why your product rocks!
5. VERY IMPORTANT - what affilates hate the most
is getting tons of clicks and no sales
they know they are doing everything right but your landing page doesnt convert and they dont see ROI

Suggestion:
create a few landing pages
test each one ( using adwords ( google cash or profits method))
Choose the one that converts best and send that to CB

if your page doesnt rank weel for two months
people have a way of knowing that via CB alert created by Maayan Marzan which basicaly lets people know if your product is climbing the ladder or is on its way down

To your success

ember




msg:551027
 11:10 pm on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

Shamai,

Thanks for all the pointers. We'll give it a try and see it we climb the ladder or not :o)

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