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$250 a day
How long to get to this?
domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 8:25 am on Aug 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

How long do you reckon it would take to get to $250 a day if you go full time and have a fair idea of what you are doing and have plenty of ideas?

 

ska_demon

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 11:17 am on Aug 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

It is impossible to say how long. There are so many unknown factors.

How much traffic do you get?
Is it targetted?
Are you using ppc?
Do you sell stuff or is the site designed for Adsense type ads?
What is the commission rate?

On and on and on.

So, as you can see, without knowing any of this it is impossible to say how long it would take you to earn $250 per day.

Sorry

Ska

snay

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 12:26 pm on Aug 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have crossed the $200 mark thrice and i started affiliate marketing full time last month (16th July to be exact) but i have been learning and experimenting with different programs since early this year and lost quite a bit of money but i recovered all of it within 10 - 12 days.

domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 3:49 am on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

thanks for replying guys.

My plan is to have about 4-5 blog type sites with adsense.

They will all be targeted.

Adding plenty of content. I aim for a mix of about 75% original / 25% free topical articles.

Revenue - Adsense & Affiliates

Lots of hard work.

tsinoy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 4:24 am on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

about 21 days after going full time.. :) that's how long it took me... that was back in march.. and now I'm flying.. hehe..

anyways.. if you know something works.. make sure you do whatever you can to improve it every month... target 100% increase... if you got only 50% heck.. its still an improvement.. :) aim high..

good luck...

nativenewyorker

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 4:49 am on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

There are plenty of posts within the last 6 months about how to make $100 or $xyz in a day. Go look through the archive here at WebmasterWorld vs. beating this topic to death.

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 4:33 am on Aug 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

What tsinoy says. If you know where to look and what to do...3 to 4 weeks and you'll be pulling in more than that per day. And I'm not just blowing smoke either...

Dave.

domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 8:43 am on Aug 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks again to everybody who has posted here.

Dave & tsinoy -
Could you recommend any methods that really helped you?
What sort of sites are you running?
What income streams do you find the best and why?

Our goal is $250/day because there are four of us working on it and when we achieve this, we are self sufficient. We will be pulling in income from other part time & consultancy work too to reduce our own risk as we understand there will be fluctuations in income.
Our skill sets are 1 programmer, 1 marketing/branding guy, 2 writers/researchers.
What is your opinion on this?

Anyone else, please feel free to reply too.

Cheers & thanks again,
Dominic.

jdubo79

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 12:50 pm on Aug 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

You got a web designer?

mwack

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 2:34 pm on Aug 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

To tsinoy and snay:

Are you both using PPC advertising? If not, how can you achieve results so quickly? Thanks.

1Lit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 9:37 pm on Aug 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Feel so dumb compared to the geniuses here who managed to reach $250 net profit a day in about a month. Took me years.

Edited to add:
Then again 99% of the world's population must be equally thick as me because they are earning less than $250 a day.

snay

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 10:50 am on Aug 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey mwack,

I'm using PPC to promote all my sites. I tried promoting them on search engines but it was taking a lot of time and effort so i backed out.

At the moment I'm only working with programes that pay per lead, cant give out any other information :)

- M

jchampliaud

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 4:15 pm on Aug 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Seems to me the question isn't so much how to make 250 a day. But how to make 250 over the course of say a year. It would seem that many at WW have been able to go from nothing to #*$! a day. But i'd like to know how many can do it over the course of a year.

domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 9:23 am on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yep, we have a web designer.

Is part of the reason that you are successful so quickly because you pay to advertise your sites instead of pure SEO?

ska_demon

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 11:41 am on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Is part of the reason that you are successful so quickly because you pay to advertise your sites instead of pure SEO?

If your SEO matches that accepted by the SE's at the time then it is posible to rank within a matter of weeks. I have a small hobby site I put up less than 2 weeks ago that is now ranking in both google and yahoo.

Ska

mwack

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 3:11 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

To ska:

While I agree it's possible (I started a site 3 weeks ago that's now ranking 12th for a nice keyword in MSN), isn't it also possible (even likely) to be sandboxed by Google? My largest site was in the box for over 3 months before I started getting any traffic from the Goog. I'm sure that it wouldn't be as much of an issue with smaller, niche-targeted sites with little to no real competition, but I tend to target specific facets in more competitive markets. It just seems to be too much of a hit-or-miss with the SE's as far as that goes.

ska_demon

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 6:04 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree it does seem to be a bit hit and miss. I have a site in a competetive market that accumulated quite a large number of backlinks in a short period of time but managed to avoid the 'new site penalty'. I am a skinflint and have always relied on the SE's to provide the majority of my traffic. These days tho, it would appear that PPC si almost the only way to kick start a new site.

Ska

schlottke

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 6:33 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

If there are 4 of you working on it, is $250 a day really enough?

domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 8:00 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

schlottke: $250 a day is enough. The four of us are actually 2 sets of partners (married). Also, we live in NZ which has a reasonably cheap standard of living.

ska_demon: I agree with you. We have a couple of sites which showed up in Google surprisingly quickly. My personal site has showed up in the top 3 for my name in Google since a few days after launching and now is No 1 after about 5 Weeks. What I really would like to know is - is it necessary to launch an advertising campaign to speed up the success of the Affiliate Website?

Hiccup

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 8:55 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

$250 per day is possible. I am not sure why people think it takes forever to do this. I guess if you just focus on one way to make money, this is true. BUT think about different ways to make money online.

I don't make it yet, but just started my ppc last night, I do make enough in other areas to know it is possible though.

Just break it down:

1/4 comes from affiliate marketing
1/4 comes from adsense type sites
1/2 comes from ppc

That way when the mighty google decides to change things, your income will not be as badly affected.

Just think of what pays very well and what people are looking for all the time. (that's the only hint I can give...)

Put your head down, and start churning out blogs or whatever you're doing. The money will follow if you're consistent.

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 10:54 pm on Aug 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

For the record I'm talking $250/day Profit, not gross. And I'm talking Pure PPC, not SEO of sites.

Let me clarify. I've been in affiliate marketing for two years. Didn't make too much. Once I KNEW the way to do things right, it took ONLY 3 to 4 weeks to get it rolling. I didn't "get it" right away, it took two years to finally find what works! Some will find the "right" way faster, some slower :)

Dave.

domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 2:43 am on Aug 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Once again, thankyou to everyone who has replied to this post. You have all been very informative.

I have to admit that I am a little green on Affiliate Marketing terminology. So,

Hiccup - you mention that PPC provides 1/2 of revenue.

davewray - are you saying that you gain most traffic from PPC and attribute your success to this?

and now for the real newbie question - Is ppc for revenue or expenditure - or both?

Thanks.

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 4:15 am on Aug 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Domfos...I gain most of my traffic from PPC for my most profitable site. PPC is only a good option if you can make it so that you can make a profit after PPC expenses. The higher the ROI, the better too. Multiply this success ten times and you can quit your day job. You know, the 'ol rinse and repeat advice. I got SO into keyword research and PPC with my latest project that my eyes were opened to how many possible variations of keywords there actually are!

Dave.

mwack

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 3:36 pm on Aug 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Isn't there a significant capital danger when venturing into PPC, though? I tried doing a few different PPC campaigns on Overture some time ago, and wound up losing 100% of my investment without any conversions. Granted, it wasn't a significant investment and didn't break my bank, but over 500 clicks and no conversions.

I'm sure I didn't do the ad campaign correctly (not targeting it to proper keywords, etc), but it put me off from trying PPC again because I don't have that much money I can afford to lose. So I guess my question would be, what's your advice for people who don't have much of a bankroll to work with?

Nefig

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 4:55 pm on Aug 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Mwack, unfortunately I don't think you can try good new products or merchants without spending 100-200 bucks.

Actually, there are great deals out there which convert at 5-15% but each click may cost a lot, but it pays back a lot more :) Work on your keywords, it's pain sometimes, then work more and more until you're exhausted, and then some. It's not easy in the beginning, but then it's paradise once you found your golden program.

GuitarZan

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 8:15 pm on Aug 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey,

Isn't there a significant capital danger when venturing into PPC, though?

Welcome to business lol.

C.K.

Procyon



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 8:46 pm on Aug 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

<<what's your advice for people who don't have much of a bankroll to work with?>>

Start small and accept losses as part of the 'education'.

domfos

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 1:26 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

<<what's your advice for people who don't have much of a bankroll to work with?>>

You could read 'The Bootstrappers Bible'.

Here's a quote from it:

I am a bootstrapper. I have initiative and insight and guts, but not much money. I
will succeed because my efforts and my focus will defeat bigger and better-funded
competitors. I am fearless. I keep my focus on growing the business—not on politics,
career advancement, or other wasteful distractions.

contact me if you'd like a copy of it in pdf (I have permission from the author to give it to people).

Small Website Guy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 3:09 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

People used to ask how to get to $100/day. I guess inflation has reared its head.

On the one hand my $58/day last month is a nice little extra income, but it's no where near the $400/day I'd need to quit my job.

1Lit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4986 posted 9:16 am on Aug 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

<<what's your advice for people who don't have much of a bankroll to work with?>>

It's possible, but a lot harder and will take longer. I started off without even an internet connection and for two years had to run my business from college, avoiding the guys huddling around the PC next to me looking at porn. Was usually the first person in the computer centre and the last person out, each and every day.

Fast forward a few years of 100 hour weeks and I have several people working for me and am lucky enough to be able to spend thousands of dollars a week on my online and offline marketing campaigns.

You can do it, so keep it up and never get disheartened. Good luck :)

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