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who can you compete with?
con771




msg:527072		 10:44 pm on Mar 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

?hen looking for a new niche how should I go about determining if I can compete with the top ten sites?

I always have a good idea what I can accomplish but how do I know that quality and quantity will overtake a top site?

For example, an area like cellphones(pretty crowded). Lets say I can setup a review site that I am sure can rival 4-5 other sites in the top ten for qualnity and qualtity but the sites in the top ten are sites like Amazon reviews for cell phones.

How am I suppose to beat them in the top ten when they have a total of almost a million pages and 1000's of incomming links?

Or should I just focus on their cellphone page(s) I am competing with?

If so, How do I accurately measure what it would take to beat those pages? Most programs like nichebot show figures for the whole site not just specific pages or topics within the site.

Any ideas?

 

wellzy




msg:527073		 11:37 pm on Mar 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

I chose a spefic niche within 'cell phones' and do great. I went through alot of keywords and just looked at the top pages. I found some that weren't even being competed for (or should I say not optimized). It was fairly easy to take the top spots.
Chef_Brian




msg:527074		 8:08 pm on Mar 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey Guys,

I think wellzy hit on something that is proven to be successful when done right and that is to go after the small fish first. No need to complete for cell phones when their are hundreds of related searches that are just as profitable.

When I got started several years ago I went after the big fish as most do when they get started and did well for my first 6 months. Then the industry got more crowded and I lost two top 10 positions and saw my income drop quite a bit.

After that I dedcided to focus on less competative terms but to target hundreds of those types of terms and things are qoing quite well.

Getting organic traffic continues to be harder and harder as time goes by but as long as I continue to evolve my traffic does fine ;-)

Good luck!

Brian

con771




msg:527075		 8:35 pm on Mar 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

When you say you target hundreds of terms do mean that all of your sites are fairly large?

What would say is a small niche? What would say is the smallest niche size to profitablly target.( I do realize there are many other varibles)

For example I'm not going to target a niche with 100 searches a month but would it be wise to target 10000 or 50000. (These numbers would include related terms too).

If you can reach the top or at least think you can what is your advise for a bottom cutoff number?

MrSpeed




msg:527076		 12:41 pm on Mar 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

For example I'm not going to target a niche with 100 searches a month but would it be wise to target 10000 or 50000. (These numbers would include related terms too)

What if those keywords are from buyers that are very eager to buy? As an example I'd rather rule the serps for "buy widgets" than for "free widgets" that gets 100 times the traffic.

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