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For the noobs - $20 a day is possible
and it's just a midstep to $100 a day?...
rfung




msg:524507
 5:38 am on Aug 31, 2004 (gmt 0)

My story: About a year ago I got into affiliate marketing. I read TONS of messages from this board and a couple others. Learned a lot and also learned that I know very little about this game :)

I am happy to say that this week with school starting, I broke the $20/day barrier...this month I will make the most ever so far at about $800 or so, all profit!

I sell BOOKS from Amazon, among other things. Not a big money maker, and tons of others do the same, so I am not too worried about being secretive about it :)

It also illustrates that one can pick up any product and break into the market and make some extra money. I don't know about you but $800 isn't pocket change for me :) 20" LCD monitor here it comes ;)

One thing I have to say to noobs about what they should do is , JUST DO IT!. Build a site, even if it has one page. It takes a few weeks to a couple months to get found by the search engines, so it's important that you at least get your domain going. Of course the more pages you have upfront, the easier it will be for you to be found.

Once you have the barebones of a site, I would really start getting some content. Write about a hobby of yours if you feel there's enough interest out there. Try and add an article every week or so. Break big articles into multiple pages, etc. Only YOU can decide what to build your site on. Read some of the more exhaustive threads on the topic on this forum.

I would say that the most important thing afterwards would be inbound links. I contacted over 300 sites in the span of a year. Find out what sites link to your competitors, then ask them to link to you. Obviously the better content you have, the better luck you will have with getting webmasters to link to you.So, content again.

Link exchanging boosted up my site to Pr5, and got me in the first page of serps for some major keywords, which in turn has netted me affiliate sales and adsense income. Whereas before I would have to seek out link partners, these days they find me!..it's quite an 'ego trip' when your site gets to be the one others are requesting link exchanges with! I've even had pr6 and pr7 sites sending me requests.

Anyway - I just wanted to share this , and hopefully it will serve as a motivation for those trying to break into the field.

It can be done!...

 

xxxxxpp




msg:524537
 2:19 am on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

pff, i'm still long way from 20$ a day. At the moment Adsense on my site is making me about 50 cents a day.But it's growing, In the 2 months I have adsense on, the daily income slowly rised from 0 to where it's now. Maybe soon i'll break the 1$ a day barrier :)
I'm not giving up, I'll get there.

Zygoot




msg:524538
 11:22 am on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm close to $20 a day, but I can't see how I could raise that to $100 a day without getting much more traffic (more than five times the amount I'm getting now).

My site has a general topic (computers) and is aimed at the tech enabled people.

GuitarZan




msg:524539
 2:23 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Hey,

I'm close to $20 a day, but I can't see how I could raise that to $100 a day without getting much more traffic (more than five times the amount I'm getting now).

I see what you are saying, but once you know how to make $20 a day, then you can just do more of what you did to get there.

C.K.

rfung




msg:524540
 5:25 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm close to $20 a day, but I can't see how I could raise that to $100 a day without getting much more traffic (more than five times the amount I'm getting now).

in my case 'do more of the same' has meant to build more sites.

hdpt00




msg:524541
 5:42 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've had no problem making $20/day (even up to $100+/day) with non-affiliate (read google AS) advertisements. The problem I am having now is when I add more sites it seems my CPM drops.

In the next year I plan on making a really huge affiliate site (on 1 topic though) and pumping all my profits over this year from my little network into it.

I imagine I could get my affiliate site generating some huge income. We shall see in a year.

rfung




msg:524542
 7:49 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think you guys are tired of me reporting my revenue, but ... last month I made $35/day. I should say for informational purposes that this means that some days I've made $100, while others I've made $10...so a 'new experience' I've had to face with AM is the inconsistency at times of the revenues on a daily basis :) I have to have faith that at the end of the month there's at least 3 zeroes in the sum of my checks :)

I'm hoping to break the $40/day this month, with a new site I've put up and I also started doing some light PPC to merchant, but these changes may be better reflected next month after the site gets better indexed and I learn a bit more about PPC.

fidibidabah




msg:524543
 7:53 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

Never :D It's great to see how things are progressing for you.

Michael Anthony




msg:524544
 8:09 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

The trick is to keep adding new industries to the $20-$100 per day income stream, that way the ups and downs of one business won't hit as hard.

Depending on one industry for your income in a market where one can move as quickly as one can work is commercial suicide. For example, I make great money from personal finance, but it dies a death between mid November and Xmas. Toy sales are the opposite. Travel is year round, but peaks around public holidays.

Don't get suckered into doing more of the same thing - to quote a good friend, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got" (Apologies for my friend's poor grammar).

rfung




msg:524545
 8:18 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

to quote a good friend, "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got"

Lol. Your friend must be famous, because I've heard that line too, but with the right grammar. Must be the Brit version? or did he have one too many when he said it? :)

Incidentally, it was that same line that made me quit my job(4 more days to go), as the prospects of living such a boorish life working the 9-6 made me shudder.

brightspark




msg:524546
 10:14 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

It was mentioned earlier in the thread, but diversity is the key imo. Some seo here, aff marketing there, and a few ad words and you'll be on your way. 0 to 3k a month in 9 months has been tricky with a 'real' job to do, but very possible.

Once you've mastered the basics, spread out into other markets and use everythig you've learnt.

Thanks to everyone who's posted on ww as your comments are invaluable - my wife says thanks for the shopping money.

zidane1717




msg:524547
 6:04 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have read all the threads in this topic and find it inspiring to think I could make money on affiliates. Rfung's comments were especially good.

Anybody making money with expedia?

DennyTang




msg:524548
 6:20 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

Great stories people. I wish I read it from the first page to the last because I read it backwards and ended up rereading the first few pages.

I can see some of you are actually making quite a few dollars from your website and some of you even have more than one website.

cabbie




msg:524549
 10:08 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

I thought I might add my story here as well.I was a taxi driver 2 years ago with absolutely no computer experience whatssoever.I had never even used a computer.
My Brother had for a while been telling me to get into the internet game as he was making very good money from it.But he had a doctorate in computer science so I figured that i wouldn't be able to succeed like him.
Anyway one day I did ask him to show me and after 4 or 5 days lessons and a few months on my own to learn how to use dreamweaver I started putting out sites and submitting them to Dmoz.
A few months later still and still no luck with Dmoz, I bought a few expired domains and whammo!Next month I started to appear in googles serps for competitve words and I was actually making money.
In 8 months from knowing nothing I was able to give up my job as a cabbie and make this a lucrative pastime.
16 months later,I still know very little about computers and scripts and tech matters and can barely use dreamweaver but in that time I have made over $500,000 profit(sorry to be crass about figures)and if i do not make $1500 a day then its a poor day.My sites probably only average $4 a day but when you have 400 sites and none of them needing maintenance $4 is plenty for me.
My point is don't limit your aims or goals by thinking it can't be done.
I am proof that even a drovers dog can make money on the worlds newest frontier,the WWW.(Wild Wild West).Claim your stake now.
Cheers and thanks for listening.

rfung




msg:524550
 10:33 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

cabbie,

great story. This is what made me post the original message - once you get down to the math, it's almost impossible NOT to make money on the internet if you know how to make even $1/day from one site. I have 4 sites and so far this month it's been averaging $30-$35/day all together. All I gotta do is multiply that by 10 to become financially stable, and from then on it will all be play money.:)

Ok, I gotta change my pants, they're wet.

Zygoot




msg:524551
 10:44 pm on Oct 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

Wow impressive, knowing almost nothing about computers and making a month wage a day.

But how do you find the inspiration to start a new site every day?

Can you give us an idea about how the sites look like, how many pages do they have each?

tsinoy




msg:524552
 12:10 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

cabbie,

great story! stories like that just makes me feel that it can be done! thanks for sharing.. and keep up the good work!

gopi




msg:524553
 12:18 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Great Story Cabbie , sure this will inspire a lot ...

Affiliate wannebees , as cabbie said dont limit your goals there are many many people making multi 6 figure a month in just Affiliate marketing - just get into the game and claim your share!

[edited by: gopi at 12:22 am (utc) on Oct. 16, 2004]

mfishy




msg:524554
 12:21 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

1 page sites can make 6 figures MONTHLY :)

gopi




msg:524555
 12:25 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

>> 1 page sites can make 6 figures MONTHLY :)

Let me Salute the King!

rfung




msg:524556
 12:32 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

who's the biggest fish in the pond?!...

mfishy




msg:524557
 12:37 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

LOL! The point is, the earning potential is basically unlimited in aff marketing. Don't listen to the naysayers...

cabbie




msg:524558
 3:21 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the encouragement Guys.
As Gopi and Mfishy says, these figures aren't pie in the sky dreams.These are figures that affiliate marketers are really making.And I have proved that you don't have to be especially gifted.

>But how do you find the inspiration to start a new site every day?>

Good point.I made these sites months ago and haven't really done much at all lately.

>Can you give us an idea about how the sites look like, how many pages do they have each? >

You don't want to see them! And I don't want you to see them.I would be embarrassed by their crudeness.:)
Most are one page specials:0)

rfung




msg:524559
 3:50 am on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

You don't want to see them! And I don't want you to see them.I would be embarrassed by their crudeness.:)

Lol. I wouldn't want to show mine either, for many reasons of course, but one of them would be because they are so bad looking :)...

Zygoot




msg:524560
 3:25 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Oh and Cabbie, do you use a new domain name for every site?

Or are lots of them just subdomains?

yanov




msg:524561
 5:57 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

Be sure that he uses new domains for each of them. Merchants consider subdomains as not serious. Anyone can have a subdomain even for free. And when you have such a big budget I doubt that he will save from domains. I'm sure he leaves them a tip.:)

tsinoy




msg:524562
 7:37 pm on Oct 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

hmmm.. yeah that make sense... if you can make upto $1500/day a new domain name is just peanuts to an elephant...

cabbie, the domain name that you bought.. did you get it in the hundreds($)? I was also wondering how you'd know that the domain name had existing traffic already, aside from seeing it with content or using the google bar page rank or searching it on the search engine, is there a tool we can use?

melfan




msg:524563
 8:08 am on Oct 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

on my opinion, a simple way to know if an existing domain has traffic, is to check its link popularity. if it does have competitive back links then it may top on searches for some keywords. there is a lot of tools to check website popularity just loof for "check link popularity" in google.

tsinoy




msg:524564
 8:56 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

rfung...

any update on this?

rfung




msg:524565
 11:35 pm on Oct 25, 2004 (gmt 0)


A few more days left to calculate, but at the going rate, as of last week I was on my way to reach $50/day. It's been a bit slower now, so I'm guessing I'll end up around $40-$45/day. Not too shabby, since I was expecting $30-$35.

I had a really good first week, with a few sales of $100 or so in commission which helped me boost revenues up, but I think those were more luck than the normal flow of sales. I am not sure if next month I'll be able to reach the same amount.

On the other hand, I've put up two more sites, but they haven't been spidered yet, so we'll see if they will help me keep the growth going. I've also enlisted some external resources to help me with my link campaign, which in the long run will boost my PR.

juice




msg:524566
 1:58 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've managed to do alright with my first site.. with modest/small traffic on good weeks i do 15-20/day and some weeks i do 10-30/week.. i havent figured out my ups and downs yet but things are getting better.. it took me a while to build up my site and i find myself wanting to make more sites but i worry about the work needed after creating the sites..

i really dont understand how people can get new sites up and ranked relatively easy without a ton of work.. the ammount of effort needed to get links and promoting the sites would be nearly impossible with 1-2 new sites every week or two weeks.. how do you know how many inbound links are enough and can you really expect to get 10-20 good inbound links and have that be good enoguh to eventually grow into a decently ranked site..

when i see people talk about 100s of sites i wonder if its just a site about a particular item which is part of a bigger class and just mimicing the site design/concept to more products or is it unique ideas and sites applied to different markets or retailers.. like is it a single toy and all the relevant info to promote that one toy.. then another site promoting a diff toy in the same way..

i would prefer to create sites with minimal upkeep and that are more refference and information resources rather than blogs/news/content sites.. i recently built a really nice deals site geared towards a certain niche which i think would do really well but the ammount of effort to keep it up and promote it on a regular basis would be huge.. i've saved it pretty much for a rainy day when i cant think of anything new to create..

i think i could build sites all day but getting the traffic and promoting the sites is what has me stumped.. any ideas? any way to cheaply get help with this? or how what a good target for inbound links would be to get things going and eventually have it grow on its own?

-tom

rfung




msg:524567
 2:21 am on Oct 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

I also face that problem of growing and maintenance. I try and make my sites as maintenance free as possible, by making them 'self updateable', with scripts to allow link exchanges to take place without my intervention, or the ability for users to post comments (forum style).

As far as traffic, right now I'm banking on some of the pages hitting keywords that aren't very targetted by others, but ultimately I want to be able to rely on PR (or whatever passes for 'high relevancy') to increase hits. For that,

I've also enlisted some external resources to help me with my link campaign

i.e hired some cheap help to go link hunting for me. It takes money to make money, I say, so I reckon it will be a good investment in the long run.

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