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Is 4600 to 5500 visitor/day consider as medium-sized site?
irock




msg:546353
 1:19 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I was wondering if 4600-5000 / day consider as medium-sized site?

Any comments?

 

Tor




msg:546354
 1:21 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

It depends what kind of site it is and what kind of market it is targeting...? ;)

pardo




msg:546355
 2:07 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

If they come around and leave the site it's poor traffic and low sized.

If 10% buys your $ 250,00 blue widget it ain't that bad ;)

eyeinthesky




msg:546356
 2:23 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

4600-5000 / day
?

...do you mean visitors or clicks?

If visitors, it is better than average. Well even if it is clicks, it still not too bad....unless they are from clickbots.

irock




msg:546357
 3:02 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

it's number of visitors.

Well, all my visitors 'come around and leave', but they generally stay around 5 minutes. I have a content site devoted to PC peripherals & I have shopping links (adsense/comparision shopping).

jomaxx




msg:546358
 4:13 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I don't see much benefit in putting that kind of label on it, but 5,000 people a day ain't small. It also ain't particularly large. So I guess it's "medium".

FWIW, I have heard of a number of similarly sized sites that provide a full-time income or more. You have to have the right demographic and monetize the size carefully.

irock




msg:546359
 4:31 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

well, as i mentioned before, my content is about pc hardware. so, adsense bid rates are really sky high. but there's also comparison shopping that boosts revenue a bit.

I have a friend whose brand new debt consolidation site makes him several hundred bucks a month from adsense. Not too bad for a brand new site (3 month old).

snabbstart




msg:546360
 8:26 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

A porn site with 4000-5000 visitors/day is quite small but a site that handels about how to clean a toilet is big if it has that amount of visitors...

austtr




msg:546361
 1:19 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

... also depends if the site is country specific. Those numbers may well be considered small if the site targets USA viewers but they would be excellent for a site targeting Australian or NZ viewers for example.

pageoneresults




msg:546362
 1:29 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I would say it is not the volume but, the quality of that volume. 5,000 visitors a day is respectable. How many page views did those visitors generate? How long did they stay on each page? Did they generate a sale? An inquiry? A possible lead?

With 5,000 visitors per day, I'd surely be wanting to convert those somehow, someway. ;)

percentages




msg:546363
 8:45 am on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

>With 5,000 visitors per day, I'd surely be wanting to convert those somehow, someway.

Me too....Just selling exit clicks you would make $3K+ per month. Anything sold from content would be additional.

I estimate 5,000 visitors per day should put you in the top 40,000 sites according to Alexa. Given the number of sites that exist, that is a respectable position. Not a cornerstone, but certainly not small fry. Medium+ IMHO.

I think you should be looking at a minimum of $10K profit per month from this level of traffic from affiliate marketing.....$40K/month would not be an unreasonable goal.

Your friend in debt consolidation could make $15K+ per month from 5,000 visitors per day just by selling the traffic!

I suggest looking a little deeper into the opportunities available. Your site should be a good "printing press", if not you probably haven't found the right partners yet :)

MarkJH




msg:546364
 4:52 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

Just selling exit clicks you would make $3K+ per month

$50 CPM?

irock




msg:546365
 5:12 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

percentages,

Thanks for your input. Do you know where to find a good exit pop company? Will exit pop contain CPC text ads or banner?

Thanks!

jomaxx




msg:546366
 5:58 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

I think that MarkJH is right and that $3,000 a month estimate is simply bad math. I would guess maybe $3,000 a year if that.

If AdSense is a good fit for your site, I would definitely not use something as lame as exit pops.

P.S. IMO that level of traffic would more likely put you in the 100,000 - 1,000,000 range in Alexa. But that's not relevant to the price of beans anyway, and if you like you can simply install the toolbar and see for yourself.

irock




msg:546367
 6:07 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm between 30,000 to 70,000... don't know why changes are so drastic...

MarkJH




msg:546368
 9:20 pm on Jan 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

and if you like you can simply install the toolbar and see for yourself.

...and watch your ranking go up, up and away just because you have installed it! :)

jomaxx




msg:546369
 12:16 am on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

The reason the rankings jump around so much is that Alexa can only measure the surfing activity of people that have the Alexa toolbar enabled, so the statistical sample ends up being very small for most sites.

You can use this fact to manipulate your own rankings somewhat (as MarkJH points out), and some people do. But IMO it's an utter waste of time.

esllou




msg:546370
 6:33 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

5000 a day = 150,000 visitors a month

$3K a month from pops would equal $20 cpm, not $50 cpm.

think it should be $300, not $3000. and no ad network I know gives even $2 NET! Gross, maybe.

Or you could have 10 exit pops pop on exit I suppose but none of those 5000 would ever return.

ap_Rhys




msg:546371
 6:49 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Alexa is a piece of nonsense - most toolbar users are webmasters or people with a strong interest in IT. The rest of the human race (i.e. just about everyone) do not know about it, do not use it and would gain nothing from it.

In my experience a website can make $1000 a month from an average of 1000 users a day - when you know how. And you would be well advised to leave pop-ups and -unders well alone.

pardo




msg:546372
 6:59 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

ap_Rhys,

Does that multiply if average number of visitors grow, for example you say $ 1.000,- for daily average of 1.000 visits so that will be $ 5.000,- at 5.000 visitors, $ 10.000,- for 10.000 visits and with an average of 25.000 visitors it will be possible to generate $ 25.000,- a month...?

Any facts on this...?

ap_Rhys




msg:546373
 8:31 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I'm just talking from my own experience. It takes hard graft, niche sites, serious content, lots of work, advertising deals, affiliate links, adsense, etc.

Does it 'multiply'? ... along with the work, yes, it seems to. But this game is not for 'get rich quick' types.

jomaxx




msg:546374
 11:57 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

I agree with ap_Rhys that it's possible, but no way can every site achieve that kind of revenue. You have to have the right kind of subject matter and the right kind of traffic. Also helps to have brains, drive, and luck.

wnshops




msg:546375
 2:25 pm on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

YOu have 4600 to 5500 aday. Are you amazon?
it's must be spam. What do you sell? can you show me your website? Don't tell me it's porn site.Please. I just want to know. No heart feeling.
Thanks

fidibidabah




msg:546376
 3:16 pm on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Well that last post was completely unintelligable :P

5000 unique hits a day would be my dream right now. Here's my suggestions:

Keep using adsense, screw with the placement and colors and see if you can jump it a bit. You just might be able to hit $500 a month with AdSense, but $300 is reasonable ($250 prolly realistic)

Get into hardcore Pay-Per-Sale listings. Join CJ and spam your site with links (but of course in a tasteful way that won't tick your customers off). Use them with contenting, start writing articles (if you already haven't) and then link in the middle or the end with a banner or button or just a text link through CJ for a specific type of item on a specific landing page. Trust me. It works. If you can get a decent payout (I know it's off your topic, but a company like Fossil pays 15%, which is amazing) you can take some serious cash.

With 150,000 UNIQUE visitors a month, you could pull in a good $1k if you put a little effort into it and use your different avenues. Just keep working and tweaking, who knows, maybe it'll get bigger :)

irock




msg:546377
 3:36 pm on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

fidibidabah,

While your numbers are under-estimate, your advices are pretty good.

5000 people aren't a lot BTW. You simply have to focus on one thing that puts your site competitive in your topic, and everyone will link you.

Thanks.

tdnetworks




msg:546378
 7:50 pm on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

5,000 visitors a day is nothing... I get double than that and it is still nothing to me... It is still a small site just like my site is a small site.

But as far as how much you will make, it wont be awhole lot. I make roughly $2.50 cpm though google which isn't nothing. I say with 5k unique, you should do whatever you can to make it even more. Don't put pop-ups on your site though, you still don't recive enough visitors to make awhole lot of money unless you don't mind annoying your viewers.

Try come CPA deals, I am doing ok with allposters and amazon making around $4cpm through them... just keep adding it up and placing more ads on yoru site, then you can turn that 5k unique into some cash...

gopi




msg:546379
 9:02 pm on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

>> I estimate 5,000 visitors per day should put you in the top 40,000 sites according to Alexa

I have two sites each with more than 6k daily traffic and they are not even in the alexa top 100,000 :)

>> YOu have 4600 to 5500 a day. Are you amazon?

5000 visitors is a fortune in some industry and minuscule in some ...if its a poster or porn site its few hundred dollars a month if its a pharm site i can easily rake 50k/month

mfishy




msg:546380
 1:35 pm on Jan 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

Webmasters focus way too much on traffic rather than revenue. One of our "loans" sites generates only around 10k uniques per month which translates into $15,000 monthly commission.

OTOH, we have sites that generate that traffic everyday which only make afraction of that. As gopi says, it really depends on what area it is.

hehe, yah in pharm you could make six figures monthly with that traffic easy.

XMLMania




msg:546381
 4:30 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

5000 unique hits a day would be my dream right now. Here's my suggestions:

Keep using adsense, screw with the placement and colors and see if you can jump it a bit. You just might be able to hit $500 a month with AdSense, but $300 is reasonable ($250 prolly realistic)

Hmm this seems an under-estimation to me. My website gets 25-30k page views per day, with less than 1000 unique visitors per day (normally), and brings me in more than the highest figure you stated.

With 5000 unique visitors per day I'd say anything unto $2000 per month via AdSense is achievable, and taking into account it's a hardware/computer site may make it an even higher figure.

figment88




msg:546382
 4:57 pm on Jan 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

1/3 of the alexa number comes from pageviews not users.

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