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LisaAndrew




msg:33431
 11:41 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

What is the exact re-index time in Teoma SE? Any idea?

 

robzilla




msg:33432
 12:07 pm on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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robzilla




msg:33433
 11:05 am on Jan 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

Now that Ask Jeeves has included the date and time that pages were last cached, it's obvious that pages that are currently in the index are frequently crawled and cached, but newer websites will have to wait a while before they enter that index. Or is it? I have a website that was indexed by Ask Jeeves a couple of months back when it only had one introductionary page. Now, since two weeks, it has a complete website on it, but Ask Jeeves, though having crawled it frequently, won't update its cache. In fact, it does not even have a cache. When searching for the website's URL, the old title and description of the introductionary page are shown, but there's no link to a cache.

I have to give the kudos to MSN for their wonderfully fresh index.

RichTC




msg:33434
 11:41 pm on Jan 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

One site we worked on which was visited by the bot on a regular basis had a number of its pages indexed but none ranked anywhere within the top 70 so it was almost a total waste of time.

Despite changes to some of the pages titles or content, the index remained with the old cashed pages. At one point the sites index page was showing content some 9 months out of date.

Ask returned about 40-70 customers a month maximum for about three years but almost every day the bot came but with a low number of hits and no changes to the pages in the index.

Then the site had three big deep crawl hits from the bot about a month apart each time with the usual regular bot hits as before - again no changes in the index. My client phoned me at the time to suggest blocking the bot as it was eating bandwidth and producing nothing in return. We left it as it was but had written ask off as a supplier of traffic to the site.

Then, bingo one day about 4 months later, it was like a miricle, loads of the sites pages started showing up in the results top 10. For keywords that we didnt expect to be honest!, the keywords we expected to rank didnt but other pages did.! Ask started sending about 4000 visitors a month to the site.(not big numbers but a step in the right direction) This has continued since.

I have looked into it and can honestly conclude that i have absolutely no idea why the site now ranks in it. Teoma show the site as having more backlinks than before but so have other sites we work on that still dont rank.

If i had to guess, i would say that possibly the site attracted some links from a few similar types of content sites (that Teoma liked)and this may have been what triggered the push.

I have since read that Teoma likes "matching content links" and that whilst it prefers only paid for listings, it will feature some "authority" sites in the index for free if it values them enough.

Frankly its a lottery if you "ask" me how you get ask to recognise your site as an authority, but even in this example, the webmaster is still trying to work out how to get it to rank for other keywords.

And you all thought Google was a mystery - i think ask takes some beating!

robzilla




msg:33435
 8:39 am on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for sharing that.

The only indication I know of that Teoma sees a page as an authority is if you search for your keyword and look at the list of "Resources - Link collections from experts and enthusiasts". My guess is that it is only a small selection of authoritive documents; if they would list them all, it would be too easy (even though I already have a hard time getting a link on those resources).

I'm waiting for Yahoo to review a website that I submitted for an express directory listing. I'm very curious to see if anything will happen in Ask and/or Google and/or Yahoo as a result of that.

LisaAndrew




msg:33436
 10:40 am on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Great Information!
But i feel that Teoma re-indexes within 3 to 4 days. Do any one agree with this? :)

robzilla




msg:33437
 12:06 pm on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

The most recent cache I could find in Ask's index is from January 16 - 4 days ago, and that was Ask's own homepage. Most cache dates I saw were from January 14th.

The trouble for newer websites seems to be getting into that pool of pages of which the cache is (somewhat) frequently updated. Ask's own version of a sandbox, perhaps ;-)

RichTC




msg:33438
 11:55 pm on Jan 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

Lisa,

I would just check that the cache page dated by ask was the page on that day.

In my own experience i have seen ask show a cashe date on a page when in fact the page had been changed some weeks earlier and that was not how the page looked on that date.

As for the bot it has visited loads of sites we work on, on a regular basis but they have still seen zero movement in ASKs natural SERPS

Regarding authority status i believe that the connection is down to one way links from sites within your sector it rates to your site. This is the only connection i have found to date.

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