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Ask Jeeves beats Google
Never before have I seen this
IanTurner

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Msg#: 374 posted 11:03 am on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Stats on one site have Ask Jeeves above Google for the first time ever.

1 Ask Jeeves 1,639 33.42%
2 Google 1,620 33.03%

I was shocked.

 

rfgdxm1

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Msg#: 374 posted 6:39 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

My guess is that site has lousy Google SERPs, and excellent ask.com SERPs.

martinibuster

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Msg#: 374 posted 7:18 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Getting away from the percentages:

Has the "actual" number of Google hits gone down?

Or is this a case of "actual" AJ hits going up?

IanTurner

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Msg#: 374 posted 7:45 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

This is definitely a case of AJ results going up, rather than Google going down and I will admit to slightly better positions in AJ than Google, but nothing that would lead me to expect AJ to make top referrer.

redzone

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Msg#: 374 posted 7:58 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ian,
When you reference AskJeeves, are you actually meaning Teoma?

Teoma has some new distribution partners over the last 60 days...

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Msg#: 374 posted 8:10 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

I have seen a signficant increase in Askjeeves as well.

In fact, a staggering increase.

I will do a detailed analysis later tonight and report back, but on one of my sites it is running second to Google (big site, thousands of pages, good rankings across the board)

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Msg#: 374 posted 11:33 pm on Feb 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

OK - I checked

Traffic is from ask.co.uk and is almost identical to my Yahoo traffic. Ranking is similar for the main traffic phrases.

I'd noticed an increase previously, but nothing like this.

Gonna go check a few more in case it is some kind of fluke.

Anyone else seeing this?

IanTurner

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Msg#: 374 posted 12:20 am on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Traffic is ask.co.uk/ask.com not Teoma partners, (unless they are running traffic through the ask sites.)

I'm seeing noticeable (but not surprising)increases on a number of sites, and one or two with increases that are beyond what I would call normal.

I suspect there may be some kind of snapshot type access to sites when a search is performed. (I've seen this from other providers in the past.)

4eyes

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Msg#: 374 posted 12:32 am on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ian,

I hand checked a good few of mine - they certainly appeared to be genuine searches.

Ask was nowhere near to Googles figures though, but a very close third behind Yahoo.

My other sites are showing a modest gain by Ask, but this one stands out like a sore thumb - must be a customer profile thing.

Warren

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Msg#: 374 posted 1:19 am on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

RedZone,

The only news I found of Ask Jeeves adding new partners was at [ask.co.uk...] regarding Friends Reunited.

Doesn't seem to be a major new distribution partner to me - althought I don't know the UK market too much, I can't see thousands of people searching from Friends Reunited.

Who else has Ask.co.uk signed recently?

Warren

shorebreak

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Msg#: 374 posted 2:06 am on Feb 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

Interesting. Anyone besides IanTurner and Eye seeing the same traffic increase from Ask Jeeves?

sloney

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Msg#: 374 posted 6:39 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

I was only just discussing this at work the fact that our Ask visitors are really up in comparison to before on a daily basis. Have many people migrated from google to Ask over the last 3 months?

IanTurner

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Msg#: 374 posted 7:25 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

It does seem that Ask is becoming a big winner in all the recent index shuffling.

They do seem to have extended their index quite considerably recently, I have a number of new sites in Teoma/AJ as well as seeing the increase in traffic on my existing sites.

martinibuster

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Msg#: 374 posted 7:53 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

They do seem to have extended their index quite considerably recently...

Very recently- like within the last week or two. The size of their index as an accurate snapshot of the web has been my big complaint.

Unfortunately the new stuff seems to be around two or three months stale. I guess if freshness matters it's important to PFI, which is what I may do.

It appears that they add to the index about twice a year. Could it three times a year, or does twice a year sound about right?

sdani

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Msg#: 374 posted 8:01 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

From where I see it, Google and Ask Jeeves are same. Ask Jeeves has crawled my site's 4,000 pages twice in past 2 months, but has never even indexed even the home page.
Google on the other hand has indexed my home page, but does not return that page for any search except site:www.widgets.com. Even if I search for mydomain, I don't get my web site as a result even in first 1000 pages. (On yahoo, if I search for mydomain, my index is #3, on about.com (and inktomi, msn) its #1).

So for me, google and Ask Jeeves are alike :(

percentages

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Msg#: 374 posted 8:16 pm on Feb 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ask is becoming a significant player. Since AOL removed Google from their home page I am seeing more AskJeeves referrals than AOL!

I think it is a little premature to suggest AskJeeves is a serious competitor to Google, Yahoo or MSN, but I think it is safe to say it now is a real contender for 4th spot and likely to do better in the coming months at the expense of Google.

AskJeeves has kept a low but steady profile for a long time. It's results are generally good IMHO and it deserves a larger market share :)

smatsmax

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Msg#: 374 posted 1:20 am on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've seen ask.co.uk beating google for a while on one of my sites, google does list and rank the site too...
But top refereres look like this
1. ask.co.uk
2. msn.co.uk
3. google.co.uk

sem4u

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Msg#: 374 posted 8:30 am on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Teoma seems to update every 6 months or so IMO.

If updates were more frequent then they could be onto a winner.

caine

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Msg#: 374 posted 3:43 pm on Feb 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ask and its varients through Teoma, certainly for the logs that i am looking at are showing definite signs of increase in numbers, though comparitively to G and Y, still quite small, one thing i did note though was the slack that MSN was showing, being picked up in a sort of way by the teoma based services.

mayor

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Msg#: 374 posted 5:00 am on Mar 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ask is no longer a SE to scoff at.

You've all read the story about the Tortoise and the Hare, haven't you?

Let's just pray they don't sell out to yah know who!

msgraph

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Msg#: 374 posted 5:14 am on Mar 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

You hit the right niche on Ask and your traffic will boom compared to Google. Natural language type queries seriously fail on Google but do really well on Ask.

mayor

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Msg#: 374 posted 5:27 am on Mar 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

You're right about that msgraph.

Growing up in the programming world, natural language queries seem a bit strange to me, but I've observed people using Ask and acting like their natural language queries are normal ... like they're conversing with a human.

I say "huh?, that's a machine you're talking to", but they don't know how to think and talk like a machine.

shorebreak

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Msg#: 374 posted 7:00 am on Mar 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

msgraph, I had heard that Ask Jeeves users at one point in time *did* to more natural language searches, but that over time they stopped doing so once it became clear that Ask was no better than other SEs at actually delivering good results for those types of searches.

Do you have any statistical anecdotes to support the notion you stated earlier about Ask traffic being very natural language-driven?

I have a large number of clients who are typically using AdWords, Overture and FindWhat, so learning about Ask Jeeves is something I need to do.

Thanks,

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