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caine

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Msg#: 334 posted 10:27 pm on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Lots of promises from all forms of media, but frankly unless your in a small target niche (which i certainly haven't come across yet) its doing badly.

Possible reasons:

It seems to perpetually run around and kick its own perverbial, possibly waiting for an offer of a buyout. I don't know, but its crawl cycle's are snail paced - bad thing. The theory behind the engine is good, but due to the crawl cycle is struggling at best. Where are all these extra sites/pages that would make it the same size as G?

 

martinibuster

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Msg#: 334 posted 10:30 pm on Oct 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Reason to like:
Drill down technology helps the non-techie find your website.

Reason not to like:
When a surfers clicks your serp listing, Jeeves wraps a frame around your website- lame.

tygerwoodz

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Msg#: 334 posted 4:18 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

"Reason not to like:
When a surfers clicks your serp listing, Jeeves wraps a frame around your website- lame."

I think they give people the option to remove the frame permanently. Maybe this is new?

Lydia

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Msg#: 334 posted 4:27 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

tygerwoodz and martini buster,

The "remove frame" in Ask Jeeves has been there for as long as I can remember.
For one of my clients, though she doesn't get a lot of traffic from AskJeeves, she has received a number of inquiries that have converted into sales.

From an end-user perspective, I like AJ when I'm not sure what to type in the Google Search box. <edit> And when I don't know which categories I should be looking for in Yahoo </edit>

Just my two-cents worth...

Lydia

[edited by: Lydia at 4:47 am (utc) on Oct. 7, 2003]

richardb

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Msg#: 334 posted 4:42 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Maybe this is new?

Nope been there since I can remember – Joe public has no idea what it means!

None browser standardisation - can get confusing if you don’t use AJ much... …not sure how much the featured sponser likes that 1!

Rich

martinibuster

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Msg#: 334 posted 4:57 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think they give people the option to remove the frame...

The "remove frame" in Ask Jeeves has been there for as long as I can remember.

Please re-read my post. I did not say that the frame couldn't be removed.

I mean- it's pretty obvious to us that it can be removed. I'm only stating that it's lame that they do it at all.

Can someone please add something thoughtful to this thread, thanks.

ncw164x

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Msg#: 334 posted 5:12 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I get quite a few refers on a daily basis via Ask Jeeves so I can't complain

richardb

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Msg#: 334 posted 9:04 am on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Can someone please add something thoughtful to this thread...

>>Maybe this is new?

Nope been there since I can remember – Joe public has no idea what it means!

Was a reply to tygerwoodz

As I said AJ lack of cross browser support is a basic mistake... ...not something that a company of AJ size should make. As a featured sponser I would be peeved!

Hawkgirl

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Msg#: 334 posted 4:30 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Reasons to like:

Even with inferior results, they're still providing the Big Guy with a little bit of competition - which is healthy for the industry.

Tropical Island

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Msg#: 334 posted 6:22 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

The main problem we have with them is they just don't generate any traffic. For the week of Sept. 28 - Oct. 4 we had 11,288 visitors on our main site of which 2,384 were identified as search engine generated. 35 (0.015%) came from Ask Jeeves. We checked our main search terms and we are in the top 10 on every one.

On looking at the actual queries many are obviously from very uninformed searchers (maybe young students doing homework projects?)and use AJ because of the easy search entries (sentences).

The other thing we noticed is that AJ can't distinguish between our main site and a number of parked sites that point to it. Google has no problem with this.

Marcia

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Msg#: 334 posted 6:47 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Can someone please add something thoughtful to this thread, thanks.

martinibuster would it help to say that they sent a cute rep to pubcon in Boston?

Hey, I'm in the 50+ crowd, but I have a single daughter. A mother has to keep her eyes open and be thoughtful about such things. ;)

Seriously, judging from some small sampling a while back, AJ/Teoma has interesting possibilities for people who do ecom trade geared toward women's markets. Might be the way people in some demographics like to search, and it may have something to do with how a good number of people dealing in those markets like to do their linking.

Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 334 posted 6:48 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

> AJ and Teoma

Like- Teoma's clean interface and awesome drill down links.
Dislike - jeeves's frame.

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 334 posted 6:53 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

dislike: teoma's outdated index.

dislike: teoma's ranking system which makes my website design firm #1 for $region because 20 or so client sites link to me from their home page.

tygerwoodz

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Msg#: 334 posted 7:52 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

I meant that they now seem to allow you to remove the frame permanently in 'your settings'. They should give you a dialog box though when you click remove that gives you the option right there instead of having to go to that page to do it, but at least they do it. Are you listening JeevesGuy?

There's a search box on that frame i wonder if they keep it there because people use it alot. Also i wonder how many people are reall opposed to it as far as users go. That is, non-webmasters who don't care about tracking visitors.

jimbeetle

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Msg#: 334 posted 8:03 pm on Oct 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

Well, I'll say it again. For many of my searches Google's implementation of PR obscures what I'm trying to find. If a search has anything at all to do with a geographic area, no matter how I try to phrase the search, up pops all the travel sites.

Teoma is getting better at getting what I want on the first page and, if not, the drill down usually puts it only one extra click away.

As for Jeeves frames, that's a lesson they should have learned years ago. Dump 'em. To me it's a weird business model for a search engine to try to keep traffic on the site. Simply build a better engine -- and let people know about it -- and they will come.

SactoKhmer

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Msg#: 334 posted 1:55 am on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

you can change these combination:
1)how many results to show
2)remove frame
3)show new result.
[web.ask.com...]

also, there is advanced search, much like teoma.com
[web.ask.com...]

Brad

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Msg#: 334 posted 7:55 pm on Oct 8, 2003 (gmt 0)

Like: Teoma - good results, clean interface.

Dislike: AJ - too many Sponsored listings before the real listings.

Dislike: Both - stale indexes, need to update more frequently. Monthly would be nice.

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